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Author Topic: cell phone conversion  (Read 667 times)
WA8NNX
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« on: November 14, 2000, 03:21:50 PM »

Can a cell phone be converted to tx or rx on any ham frequency?



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TKRIDEL
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« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2000, 03:37:22 PM »

There was another post on this topic a few months ago, but no one followed up. The other person had mentioned seeing an article in QST on this topic. I'm not sure if it could be done -- or at least not easily. Anyone else have any insights?
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WD8DBY
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« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2000, 03:38:10 PM »

In my opinion, it would not be worth the effort...most cell phones work in the 800-900 mhz band and use mainly surface mount technologies.  
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N7JAU
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« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2000, 06:47:23 PM »

I doubt it, unless you are a REAL hacker.  Most cell phones are very proprietory, and you cannot get service info on them. And most of them are so small, with multilayer boards, that it would be a real job to do anything with them.  The best thing to do with old cell phones is to throw them in your car with a cigarette lighter cord for use as a free 911 phone.
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WD8MGO
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« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2000, 08:03:16 PM »

I believe most cell phones would be very tough to convert but I have seen articles in older issues of Monitoring Times.  The author who converted an older model stated that you need to download the software and make the necessary control changes.  Next retuning the RF stages.  I believe the author stated he had retuned his older cellphone to 900Mhz.  Perhaps check the various VHF/UHF websites and or the various authors who really know the technical side of the hobby.  Good Luck,
           Fred Lehman WD8MGO
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N0PJG
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« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2000, 08:26:21 PM »

There's a web page at http://oh3tr.ele.tut.fi/english/modifications.html that documents conversions of european cell and mobile phones to amateur use.
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OH3BK
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« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2001, 10:47:48 AM »

This is comparatively common in Europe, I wonder why there haven't been any conversion software and application notes from the US. Older US 800 MHz equipment should be as easy to convert to 33 cm as our 450 MHz phones are to the European 70 cm band (430-440 MHz).

Look for older transportable phones that use common microprocessors like Zilog Z80, Intel 8031/8051, Moto 68HC11 or Hitachi HD6303 etc. The firmware of the phone should be in an EPROM (2764, 27512 etc.) which you can erase and reprogram.

Then you should get at least the schematics for the phone. A fellow ham familiar with those processors should be able to write a program to read the keypad, drive the display and control the phone with only a help of the schematics and data sheets for the most important components. Remember that the functions used in an amateur radio transceiver are a small fraction of those needed in a cell phone.

Another ham familiar with modern (comparatively) RF technology should be able to perform the modifications needed to shift the phone to the ham band and to make a simplex radio out of a duplex phone. Don't be afraid of SMD technology, everything is just smaller so what you should do is use smaller tools and apply less heat Smiley

Of course, the more comprehensive instructions you get of the phone, the easier the job will become. Most service manuals contain good descriptions of the processor board functions, all control voltages, audio switching etc. These are comparatively easy to come by here.

Besides our pages referred to by N0PJG above, please visit the following sites to get an idea how it was done in different countries:

http://home.iae.nl/users/vhaaften/nokia/index.html

http://www.qsl.net/ok0ns/index_e.html

http://radiomods.free.fr/

If you can't read the language, this page will convert understandable, although broken, English of many others:

http://www.t-mail.com/cgi-bin/tsail

Good luck!

Benjamin OH3BK


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