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Author Topic: Privilege upgrade  (Read 513 times)
N6AYJ
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« on: July 18, 2004, 08:08:40 PM »

When are Advanced class operators going to be upgraded to Extra privileges?
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N6AJR
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« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2004, 09:59:04 PM »

when they pass the test for extra.. see qrz.com and eham.com for study guides.  Earn it, be proud.
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N6AYJ
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« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2004, 10:55:19 PM »

No, I believe there is a rule change pending before the Commission that would upgrade all Advanced licensees into Extra.
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W3HF
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« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2004, 11:53:53 PM »

There are PROPOSALS from individuals and/or clubs, but there are no rules changes "pending." None of those suggestions have appeared in any NPRM.

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KZ1X
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« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2004, 11:05:55 AM »

warning : N6AYJ flamebait detector : activated
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N8UZE
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« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2004, 12:25:12 PM »

There have been over 18 petitions for rule changes submitted to the FCC.  Only a few of these request automatic upgrades.  Many do not include such a proposal.  There is no reason at this time to think that the FCC favors such an upgrade.  The history of the FCC shows that automatic upgrades have been rejected.  At least one major licensing structure change resulted in automatic DOWNGRADES for some licensees.

So your best bet is to study the material and upgrade by taking the test.  All that will be required, since you are an Advanced class licensee, is the written test.
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WA4MJF
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« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2004, 01:05:14 PM »

Downgrade!

The only close one I know of was Class A
hams became Advanced, when the
current class names were adopted.
Class A became Advanced, but there
had never been an Amateur Extra before.
Therefore, they weren't really downgraded.

Every other change has resulted in a lateral
or upgrade.

73 de Ronnie
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AD7DB
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« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2004, 04:27:10 PM »

They took privileges away from Class A ops when they became Advanced, just to give them an incentive to upgrade back to Extra and get those privileges back.

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WA4MJF
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« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2004, 04:46:54 PM »

Wrong!

The Amateur Extra, Advanced and Generals
all had the same priviledges when the renamed
the license classes from Class A, B and C.

73 de Ronnie
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WA4MJF
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« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2004, 04:48:55 PM »

Besides we're talking about DOWNGRADING
(as a previous poster asserted) a
license class, which to my knowledge has never
happened.  Priviledges for all class have changed
from time to time.

73 de Ronnie

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K1CJS
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« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2004, 12:02:27 PM »

Downgrading has happened, just ask a ham who had his license in the sixties about the 'incentive licensing' fiasco.

If you want to upgrade to Extra, just take the test.  Its shorter than the Advanced test you took!
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WA4MJF
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« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2004, 01:02:39 PM »

K1CJS,

I was a ham before incentive licensing,
a General as a matter of fact.  I was
still a General after that.  I lost some
frequencies, but my license was NOT
DOWNGRADED.  I was a General before it took
effect and a General afterwards.

I just took a break to run your license,
I see you're not an ole fart, but a vanity
call.  I got my license in 1962, but I doubt
now that YOU ARE A HAM OF THE 60s.  I guess you're
just guessing.  READ MY WORDS,THE FCC HAS NEVER
DOWNGRADED A HAM TICKET BY VIRTUE OF RESTRUCTURING
OR RENAMING CLASSES OF HAM TICKETS!  The FCC
has UPGRADED tickets, just in the is last
one Classic Techs got an upgrade to General
by simply turning in the paperwork.

However, instead of being a General today I AM
an Amateur Extra Class.  I'm proof
that incentive licensing worked.

I don't know why I should take the
Amateur Extra test again, do you?

73 de Ronnie
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WA1RNE
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« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2004, 07:46:43 PM »

  Why would an Advanced class licensee bother with the Extra??  There's no incentive considering what you get in return is 25khz of CW space on each band and 25Khz on 75 and 20 phone.

  But then there's that "prestige" thing, right?

 Now this should spark some flames;  How about giving Extra Class licensee's free reign of all bands on Phone, CW, whatever??

The CW only sections of the bands are proving unpopular anyway - and now that $1000-$1500 tranceivers are all the rage, everyone should have a receiver with steep skirts, IF shift, Notch filters, Active filters, etc., etc., etc. that rejects QRM, right??
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