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Author Topic: Icom 718 or Yaesu FT-450?  (Read 4427 times)
WALTERB
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« on: June 26, 2008, 04:04:56 PM »

I just got my license, and I'm in the market for an entry level transceiver. It seems the 718 and 450 are both within my budget. I don't want to start a fan-boy war, I'm just looking for an objecitve opinion as to which one you would buy and why, or perhaps neither one.

thanks
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KI4BDS
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« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2008, 04:45:39 PM »

I had a 718 up until this spring. Its a great radio and I am an Icom fan, have 4 of them. Get a good tuner and use a good antenna and you'll be impressed. Its simple to learn to operate and other that the mic switch, trouble free. I may know where you can buy one, will check and leave a note. KI$BDS
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NA4IT
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« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2008, 04:57:48 PM »

I have an IC-718, and use an external Heathkit Active Audio Filter with it, instead of buying and installing the fixed internal ones. It is a good radio, easy to operate.

I have played with a FT-950, but not a 450. From what I read, the 450 has the same RX filtering system as the 950, which in my opinion is great. When I upgrade, I will probably go to the Yaesu 950. That said, the 450 probably has a few more good features that the 718 does not have built in. It is more menu driven, which I have never had a problem with, because the more you use a rig, the more you get used to it.

de NA4IT
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« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2008, 05:11:16 PM »

Have you a ham shop within reach with both set up so you can try them?  Don't be afraid of being new to operating - go in and ask the folks there to walk you around both radios, they will be glad to do so.

Try some of the other radios models as well, so as to get a feel for what stepping up gets you as well.

Your antenna system is of paramount importance.  A lesser radio with a good antenna will handly out perform a better radio with a poor antenna.
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KC9MAV
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« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2008, 05:18:32 PM »

FT-450 is just plane ugly,

I have a IC-718 use it as my main hf radio got tons of dx on it!

Remember RF is RF.
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N6AJR
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« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2008, 05:21:03 PM »

I like the 450 and better yet I perfer the 857 d, which also gives you 2m/440 and 6m all mode
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W0DKM
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« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2008, 06:18:51 PM »

the FT450 is alot more adjustable. Alot easyer to listen to for long periods. The 450 is Ready to go. nothing else to buy. Get the one with the tuner, Done.
Great RIG.
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KE4PTM
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« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2008, 06:21:24 PM »

I've had the 718 for a few years and think it's a great
rig. The 450 has a built in ATU option, which is nice,
though the 718 will work with a number of external tuners
and has an easily adapted interface for them. I use an
LDG with mine and it works very well.
The 718 has very expensive add on IF filter options and
only one slot in which to put one. So you either go with
an Inrad board or live with just the one.
The 718 doesn't offer you much flexibilty with AGC
settings. They are fixed based on mode. A couple of mods
attempt to address this issue.
The 450 gives you FM on 10 meters and 6 meters.

I'm an Icom guy, having four different rigs made by them.
But if I had to choose between the two rigs today, based
on features, I think I'd be leaning toward the 450 as the better starter rig.
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W6GF
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« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2008, 08:46:07 PM »

I have both radios.  Leaving personal feelings out, the FT-450AT is a better radio and has many more features.  The 718 is an easier radio for people starting out.  Either way you wont go wrong.

73

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WB2WIK
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« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2008, 09:07:56 PM »

Antennas.
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WALTERB
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« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2008, 09:35:33 PM »

I was leaning towards the 718 but after reading some of the reviews on the 450 now I'm sort leaning towards it. the only that jumps out at me with the 450 is no number pad. I use my Icom 75 reciever's number pad to jump around quickly. Perhaps this isn't a big deal for a transciever because you don't need to jump like you do when listening.

anyway, thanks for the comments. I'll keep reading them as they get posted. I have some time, my antenna won't be up until July anyway.

thanks
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VA7CPC
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« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2008, 12:09:25 AM »

The receive filtering on the FT-450 is more flexible than that of the IC-718 -- it has DSP-based 500 Hz filter for CW, and a choice of SSB bandwidths.   The FT-450 manual notch filter (at IF frequency) is very good, expecially for CW and digital modes.  The IC-718's automatic notch (at AF) isn't quite as useful.

Neither rig is _bad_.  I think the FT-450 offers a bit more "bang for the buck".  I was torn between a new FT-450 and a used Kenwood TS-570D which I really liked.  I chose the FT-450, and haven't regretted it.

If you're waiting for August to put up an antenna, the IC-7200 should be out, with IF DSP at a reasonable price.  A used TS-570D, if you can find one, would be nicer than an IC-718.  It's just gone out of production.  It has good ergonomics, and very nice AF DSP -- it's great to dial-down the CW bandwidth to 100 Hz.

As usual, WB2WIK has a good point.   The difference between a bad antenna and a good one, is way, way more than the difference between a bad rig and a good one.

  Charles
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PD2R
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« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2008, 12:16:49 AM »

You can get the 450 with a built in ATU but it is only to make an already resonant antenna´s work across the entire band.
So depending on what antenna´s you are planning to use, you might need a external tuner aswell.

I don´t think you can´t go wrong with either one of the radio´s. That said, make sure you spend an equal amount of $ on your antenna system.

Good luck.

Maarten
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K1WJ
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« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2008, 04:51:01 AM »


I think the Yaesu 450 is a great deal and a better value than the IC 718. The Yaesu, in almost every regard is a better radio in my view.

I have a Yaesu 450 and love it so far, last night on 10m I used the voice record 10 second option and was calling a nicely recorded CQ call with the push of a button. The performance and the features on the FT 450 for $650 is unmatched.

The IC 718 is also a good value for $550, but for the extra $100 you get 6 meters, FM mode and the FT 450 will do things the IC 718 only dreams about.

Love my FT 450.....so far.....73 K1WJ
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K3WVU
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« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2008, 07:41:02 AM »

718.  No better radio for the money...period.
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