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Author Topic: Briggs Propane Generator Tri-Fuel Conversion Kit for Briggs Gas Generators  (Read 16066 times)
W8JX
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« Reply #60 on: Yesterday at 05:47:44 PM »


Also consider this, 3500 watt generator will make about 12 cu feet of exhaust a minute and of that less than 1% will be CO. (engines make most CO at idle and might make 2% then but making less exhaust too) so your are making less than 1 cu foot of CO every 10 minutes. A typical garage door has 63 square feet open area if single door and a double door about 100 (16 x 7)  Also a 32 x 80 inch side door in a mere 3 mph breeze will move about 30 cubic feet of fresh air a minute. There is too much diffusion and ventilation for there to be a issue.  Also common sense would dictate that place generator near open main door and not back in a corner with little air movement.


In other words, you have no idea at all what the CO concentration is in the air in your garage or house.  You realize that it only takes exposures on the parts per million level over time to be a hazard.

Gee i have a oil fired boiler for hot water heat and have had CO detectors on both floors for many years and I replace them every 3 or 4 years too. I have never had any CO reading above zero. Also EPA says up to 50ppm in work place is acceptable and 100 ppm is action level you remove people.

Some just look at concept and not the math. There is no magic wall that keeps exhaust in garage with a open door.

I can say from first-hand experience that a generator being operated in a building under construction that is open on all four sides can be hazardous. FIve out of the crew of seven guys went down on that job, ending up in the hospital, me being one of them, and the guy running the generator who told us all that it would be OK because with all four sides open and a breeze blowing, one of the others.

I just hope you don't kill your family doing this.

At least get a carbon monoxide detector for that space. They're not expensive.


Those that got sick had to be very close and low relative to a large generator and unit itself was likely running poorly and dirty in emissions. 






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« Reply #61 on: Yesterday at 06:36:41 PM »

Here you go, JX, straight from a group of barristers who specialize in brain injury litigation......

From the Brain Injury Law Group:

"Carbon Monoxide Poisoning can be Subtle
 
The symptoms of carbon monoxide poisoning may not be as obvious as most people think. We commonly hear stories of the family that is overcome by a faulty furnace, found dead or in a coma. But less profound cases of carbon monoxide exposure can also result in severe disability or even death. Often times, the first symptoms of CO toxicity show up as flu like symptoms: headache, nausea, vomiting, dizziness and blurred vision. For this reason, exposure to CO can confused with flu, depression, chronic fatigue syndrome, and migraine or other headaches.
 
Delayed Onset of Severe Symptoms after Carbon Monoxide Poisoning

One of the most disturbing and unexpected aspects of carbon monoxide poisoning is the delayed onset of Neurological symptoms. Even more so than with other types of damage to the brain, this type of damage is an elongated process. Behavioral and neurological deficits can arise or worsen two to 40 days after the exposure. Often times a patient is discharged from the hospital after initial evaluation, to have a severe relapse of symptoms, from escalating pathology. The toxic effects of CO poisoning continue to attack the brain, for many weeks after the initial exposure. This syndrome, sometimes called DNS, can materialize as almost any neurological or behavioral symptom, including memory loss, confusion, seizures, urinary incontinence, loss of bowel function, disorientation, hallucinations, psychosis and balance and dizziness."


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« Reply #62 on: Yesterday at 06:55:02 PM »

Here you go, JX, straight from a group of barristers who specialize in brain injury litigation......

From the Brain Injury Law Group:

"Carbon Monoxide Poisoning can be Subtle
 
The symptoms of carbon monoxide poisoning may not be as obvious as most people think. We commonly hear stories of the family that is overcome by a faulty furnace, found dead or in a coma. But less profound cases of carbon monoxide exposure can also result in severe disability or even death. Often times, the first symptoms of CO toxicity show up as flu like symptoms: headache, nausea, vomiting, dizziness and blurred vision. For this reason, exposure to CO can confused with flu, depression, chronic fatigue syndrome, and migraine or other headaches.
 
Delayed Onset of Severe Symptoms after Carbon Monoxide Poisoning

One of the most disturbing and unexpected aspects of carbon monoxide poisoning is the delayed onset of Neurological symptoms. Even more so than with other types of damage to the brain, this type of damage is an elongated process. Behavioral and neurological deficits can arise or worsen two to 40 days after the exposure. Often times a patient is discharged from the hospital after initial evaluation, to have a severe relapse of symptoms, from escalating pathology. The toxic effects of CO poisoning continue to attack the brain, for many weeks after the initial exposure. This syndrome, sometimes called DNS, can materialize as almost any neurological or behavioral symptom, including memory loss, confusion, seizures, urinary incontinence, loss of bowel function, disorientation, hallucinations, psychosis and balance and dizziness."


I would not use a lawsuit for reference because they will say and do anything for a buck so will their bought experts.
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