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Author Topic: Legal or Illegal?  (Read 1185 times)
W8NIC
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« on: August 22, 2008, 10:25:29 AM »

Hi guys,

if it is illegal for us to have a qso with a non licensed radio operator, is it also illegal for us to talk to a licensed ham radio operator using non-fcc certified radio equiptment?
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N3DF
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« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2008, 10:30:29 AM »

Yes.  Example:  a ham can build his own equipment.
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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2008, 10:35:30 AM »

if it is illegal for us to have a qso with a non licensed radio operator,

Not true. I can have a QSO with a non-licensed operator who is using someone else's station under the proper control of the control operator who would be licensed.



is it also illegal for us to talk to a licensed ham radio operator using non-fcc certified radio equiptment?

No.  We can build our own equipment but it needs to conform to certain specifications as dictated by the FCC.
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W3LK
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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2008, 12:02:06 PM »

<< if it is illegal for us to have a qso with a non licensed radio operator,>>

If the non-licensed operator is at a ham station under the direct control of a licensed ham (who must be present in the station), the answer is NO.

Under any other circumstances, other than a life or death call for assistance, the answer is YES.

73,

Lon - W3LK
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KE4DRN
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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2008, 07:07:17 PM »

hi,

we can build our own gear or use commercial
radios on the ham bands we are licensed for.

using a Micor radio on 6m or a qso with a
the pilot of a Boeing 777 using the hf radio on board.


73 james
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W8NIC
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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2008, 08:45:25 PM »

ok. what about radios such as galaxy, rci, president, etc.... these are not certified by the fcc. if these are the radios being used by the other end, will it still be legal to have a qso with the operator?
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KE6WNH
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« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2008, 09:57:47 AM »

Certified or not, to use any type of gear for a QSO with an unlicensed station in the ham bands is illegal... but then again, these days, what isn't? It's just as illegal for a ham to go out of band and jam another station, like the feeb from 2m I overheard jamming 156.800 a couple of weeks ago.

W3LK pointed out one exception, however... in a life or property threatening emergency, anything goes. Although here in the US, the authorities would probably find a way to punish someone for it.
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AA4PB
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« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2008, 10:50:20 AM »

The FCC does not require that radios be certified for use on the ham bands by licensed amateurs. The radios my not be certified for use on CB and thus illegal for use on CB. A licensed ham can legally use the same (or modified) radio on the ham bands. It is the ham's responsibility to ensure that the radio meets all Part 97 technical requirements however.

You will see FCC certification on VHF/UHF radios that have a scanning capability. That's a certification that is required of all scanning receivers in that frequency range.
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W3LK
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« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2008, 01:55:10 PM »

<< ok. what about radios such as galaxy, rci, president, etc.... these are not certified by the fcc. if these are the radios being used by the other end, will it still be legal to have a qso with the operator?>>

If you are operating within the amateur bands, and both operators are using valid amateur call signs, how are you going to know what equipment the other operator is using?

73,

Lon - W3LK
Naugatuck, Connecticut
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W8NIC
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« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2008, 12:18:32 AM »

well, how about when the operator announces what radio he is using??? and it so happens to be an hr2510.....
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« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2008, 03:15:30 AM »

Well, the Uniden President HR2510 is also listed, by the FCC as a "Export Radio" which is not supposed to even be sold here in the United States, if that answers your question?

You can view a list of all of these radios listed as illeagle by the FCC at:

http://swap.qth.com/fcc/

 
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W3LK
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« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2008, 05:48:02 AM »

What, specifically, prompted this question?

To repeat, if you are operating within a ham band and both stations are using valid ham call signs, then things are OK for you.

If YOU are operating legal equipment, it doesn't matter what the other guy is operating - that's HIS problem, not yours.

As for "export" radios, that's for 11m use. A ham can take any radio he wants, modify it to operate _on_the_ham_bands_ and use it with no problem, as long as it meets the FCC's technical standards.

Again, what prompted this question.

73,

Lon - W3LK
Naugatuck, Connecticut
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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2008, 06:03:58 AM »

A particular radio (usually designed for CB) may be illegal to sell in the U.S. but it is NOT illegal to have it in your possession. It is also NOT illegal for a licensed ham to operate it on the ham bands provided it meets Part97 requirements. It is the ham's responsibility to ensure it meets those requirements. It DOES NOT need any type of FCC certification to operate it on the ham bands.
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« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2008, 12:58:41 PM »

> is it also illegal for us to talk to a licensed ham radio operator using non-FCC certified radio equipment?

Perfectly legal.

It is not illegal for hams to use such equipment to operate
on the ham bands.

What is prohibited is the commercial importation and
offering for sale of such radios.
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AA4PB
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« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2008, 03:23:05 PM »

What is prohibited is the commercial importation and
offering for sale of such radios.
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An that applies only to radios intended for operation on CB or other services requiring the use of certified radios. There is no FCC certification for radios intended for amateur radio use.
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