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Author Topic: How will the TS2000 compare with the new TS480SAT?  (Read 1182 times)
AE4X
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« on: November 05, 2003, 02:30:10 PM »

Looks like Kenwood has a new HF/6 meter radio out called the TS480SAT. It looks pretty interesting. I'm curious to know how it will compare with the TS2000. Street price currently on the TS480SAT, according to AES, is around $1400.
Anyone have any comments on this new rig?
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KE4MOB
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« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2003, 12:53:35 AM »

It's ugly.  Very ugly.  I've owned a TS450 for 9 years now, and my next rig with either be another 450, a 850, or a Ten Tec Omni V, VI, or Paragon.

Sorry, but the "new, stylish" menu driven batch of HF's don't appeal to me.

Steve, KE4MOB

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N8FVJ
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« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2003, 10:06:40 AM »

No flame-
However, the TS-450SAT has the worst 3rd order IMD measurement of any modern HF transceiver ever manufactured since the early '80s. Per ARRL Product Reviews, the TS-450S is about as good as a Heathkit HW101. I sold my new TS-450SAT within days of receiving this radio. The replacement IC-728 I purchased way outperformed the TS-450SAT. Additional info regarding the TS-450SAT performance issues are in the eHam 'Reviews' section on this site.

Conclusion- No comparison to the TS480SAT is possible regarding the poor performing TS-450S.
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KG4PZZ
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« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2003, 10:55:34 PM »

I've seen some ugly radios in my day.

Wow.  Reminds me of something GE would turn out.

I'm sorry, even if this thing sold for $500 and out performed three side-by-side FT-1000MPs, it's just ... ugly.

Fred
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WA2JJH
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« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2004, 12:54:13 AM »

Why Kenwood never came out with a FT-100D like rig is beyond me. They were the first minirig with the TS-50.
Why they could have not taken a ts-50, added an RF speech proc and vhf/uhf Tcvr board is beyond me too.

  The TS-48O is too big and lacks 2M and 70cm. The TS-2000 is too ugly. Both of them do not perform anywhere near my TS-850.

 They should have made a TS-87S. A TS-870 like rig with VHF/UHF the size of a FT-100D or Icom-706-2DG.

  IMHO Kenwood missed the boat on both the ts-2000 and the TS-480. $1400?

 

 
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K4CFS
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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2004, 11:36:34 PM »

I think it would be a good idea that before posting comments on radios you make sure which radio it is you are talking about! I see alot of posting about the TS-450 this IS an older radio but the question was the comparison between the TS-2000 and The NEW Kenwood TS-480 not TS-450. I own a new TS-480 and other than a HT it is the only Kenwood I have. So far It is a great radio. Please remember that all of these comments are our opinions and some new "Hams" use our comments to judge what radio would be a good buy! We need to at least get the model correct! 73's
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K4CFS
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« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2004, 08:45:49 AM »

He asked about the TS-480 NOT the old TS-450 check out some of the new radios that are out!
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GI3KDR
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« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2004, 03:23:43 PM »

I want a modern TS50 and the TS480SAT seems to fill the need.However I would love some critical comment re fan noise in the TS480.I find that a loud fan is very annoying.I will be using it only in the SSB mode.
John Stringer  GI3KDR
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PH1PH
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« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2004, 05:31:29 AM »

Worries about fan noise? I have mine mounted underneath my worktop, and the fan - although audible - is not too intrusive. As long as you don't use one of those horrid 'amplify the neighbour's dog' microphones it won't be a problem. I have to admit to being quite impressed by the '480's performance: it's not too bad at all.

And ugliness is in the eye [or mind]of the beholder.

145, Pete  PH1PH - G7ECN
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ON4MGY
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« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2004, 04:36:06 PM »

I just played a little with a TS-480 (not mine, way too expensive for me)and I must say it is a nice transceiver.
I always thought audio DSP wasn't any good, but the audio-stage DSP on the 480 is doing a great job. Especially on CW-receive with DSP, the TS-480 is performing like a big base-station. Also on SSB selectivity is really great.
It performs better than my TS-50 (as it should), but the price is too much to upgrade form my TS-50 to the TS-480.

ON4MGY Nic
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