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Author Topic: what is the best all around hf antenna you can get  (Read 8552 times)
KF4DSS
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« on: January 15, 2010, 12:14:29 PM »

if you alone had one antenna for hf and it works all bands what would you chews ? thanks
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K5DVW
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« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2010, 12:35:25 PM »

It's not hard to chew a dipole!
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« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2010, 12:37:56 PM »

Quite possibly it would be the most expensive one.
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WA3SKN
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« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2010, 12:42:15 PM »

This depends on your interests.
I would probably choose a horizontal loop-up high, but my situation causes me to use a vertical one. Fed with ladder line, it is hard to beat for an "all bander".
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-Mike.
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KA2UUP
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« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2010, 12:45:30 PM »

It all depends, as everything is in this hobby.
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K7RNV
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« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2010, 12:54:59 PM »

A steppir
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K6AER
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« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2010, 12:57:22 PM »

SteppIR DB 36 with the 80meter option at 160 feet.
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WB6BYU
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« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2010, 01:08:21 PM »

A vertically polarized "Elephant Cage" on a tropical island where it was surrounded by
salt water on all sides?

A 3 to 30 MHz rotatable log periodic beam on a 100m tall tower?  (I could, of course,
have a separate 160m antenna, since that is not an HF band.)


Since the "best all around hf antenna" either doesn't exist or is something that most
of us can't afford, we instead look to what best meets our needs within our
constraints of cost, size, etc.  And that will vary widely from one ham to the next,
depending on their situation and preferences.
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G3TXQ
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« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2010, 01:28:56 PM »

An array of 36 Hi-band/Lo-band Rhombics each spaced 10 degrees in azimuth; then an identical array, far enough away from the first to be able to use diversity pairs.

Steve G3TXQ
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KB0NPW
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« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2010, 01:30:05 PM »

If money is no object, Steppir. If you're a poor ol' boy like me, G5RV. I have worked the world on mine with 100 watts, and pick up signals you wouldn't believe. It is an awesome all-around antenna for the money.
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KC8VWM
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« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2010, 01:32:39 PM »

Does "best" in this context mean the most expensive antenna available?

Does "best" in this context mean the easiest antenna to install?

Does "best" in this context mean you have unlimited space and the size of the antenna is not a factor?

Does "best" mean you are only concerned with performance?

Does "best" mean you are only concerned with how many bands the antenna will function?

Does "best" mean you have a 90 foot tower or does "best" mean you are limited to using 2 trees in the backyard?

...Do you see the problem with "best"?

73 de Charles - KC8VWM
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« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2010, 01:58:59 PM »

I think that I would choose a an approximate 102' or 204' dipole fed with ladder line from the antenna to the shack. If I could have more say so then, I'd make it at least 65' above the ground flat top configuration.

I really like my Hustler 5BTV vertical a lot and it gets used way more than my dipole but I do not operate on 75/80 very much, down there the vertical is basically a DXers antenna and propagation allowing for DX is different on and 80 & below. For a person using a loaded vertical DX may not be an everyday occurrence on 80 but it is pretty much on 40 & above. The dipole will give you a signal with a higher angle of radiation that will allow you to communicate throughout much maybe all of the U.S. where somebody is always on the band and if you are skill full and patient some DX when condx are good.
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« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2010, 02:06:43 PM »

by KC8VWM on January 15, 2010  Mail this to a friend!  
Does "best" in this context mean the most expensive antenna available?

Does "best" in this context mean the easiest antenna to install?

Does "best" in this context mean you have unlimited space and the size of the antenna is not a factor?

Does "best" mean you are only concerned with performance?

Does "best" mean you are only concerned with how many bands the antenna will function?

Does "best" mean you have a 90 foot tower or does "best" mean you are limited to using 2 trees in the backyard?

...Do you see the problem with "best"?

73 de Charles - KC8VWM  


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good reply..

billy uk
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N2EY
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« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2010, 04:48:14 PM »

There isn't one. Not even if you have all the money and space imaginable.

For some things you want a low radiation angle, for others you don't.

For some things you want directivity, for others you don't.

For some things you want an antenna that receives well, for others you want an antenna that transmits well. The two aren't always the same antenna.

No one antenna is best for all uses on a single band, let alone all of HF.

73 de Jim, N2EY
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KF4DSS
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« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2010, 05:32:32 PM »

WELL NICE ANSWER BUT ITS SAY YOU HAVE 500 TOO SPEND A HAIL ACRE LOT AND NO TREES WHAT WOULD YOU PUT AS A HF ANT
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