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Author Topic: License Count by State  (Read 1358 times)
N3XP
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« on: May 02, 2010, 11:16:55 AM »

State       Active Licenses
Alabama    ---   12,017
Alaska    ---   3,736
Arizona    ---   17,658
Arkansas    ---   7,877
California    ---   103,000
Colorado    ---   14,205
Connecticut    ---   7,951
Delaware    ---   1,633
District of Columbia    ---   441
Florida    ---   41,712
Georgia    ---   17,027
Hawaii    ---   3,669
Idaho    ---   5,883
Illinois    ---   22,074
Indiana    ---   15,920
Iowa    ---   6,472
Kansas    ---   7,597
Kentucky    ---   9,538
Louisiana    ---   6,891
Maine    ---   4,694
Maryland    ---   11,206
Massachusetts    ---   13,849
Michigan    ---   22,172
Minnesota    ---   11,996
Mississippi    ---   5,322
Missouri    ---   14,250
Montana    ---   3,537
Nebraska    ---   4,023
Nevada    ---   6,178
New Hampshire    ---   5,386
New Jersey    ---   14,776
New Mexico    ---   6,701
New York    ---   29,648
North Carolina    ---   19,724
North Dakota    ---   1,540
Ohio    ---   29,966
Oklahoma    ---   10,258
Oregon    ---   16,217
Pennsylvania    ---   24,876
Rhode Island    ---   2,165
South Carolina    ---   8,627
South Dakota    ---   1,828
Tennessee    ---   16,744
Texas    ---   49,852
Utah    ---   12,706
Vermont    ---   2,311
Virginia    ---   18,593
Washington    ---   29,558
West Virginia    ---   7,108
Wisconsin    ---   11,685
Wyoming    ---   1,791
American Samoa   ---   36
Armed Forces - Pacific   ---   153
Armed Forces - Americas   ---   7
Armed Forces - All Others   ---   201
Guam   ---   522
Mariana Islands   ---   521
Puerto Rico ---  4818
U.S. Minor Islands   ---   1
Virgin Islands   ---   279
      
Total      731,116
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W7ETA
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« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2010, 11:20:47 AM »

KP4?
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N2EY
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« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2010, 11:30:42 AM »

What is the source of those numbers and what do they include?

The reason I ask is that the numbers seem to me to include licenses that are expired but in the grace period, and club licenses.

The number of hams with unexpired licenses is somewhat less (690,022 as of yeasterday).

Not saying your numbers are "wrong", just that it's important to note what they do and do not include.

73 de Jim, N2EY
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N3XP
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« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2010, 11:51:30 AM »

Active licenses was the query.  Yes it does include club licenses as well.  I know there are a lot of paper clubs out there that don't really exist as a club.  But, the calls are valid and licenses are good.  It does not include calls in the grace period.  5% as club calls seems to be reasonable.

Totally missed KP, 4818
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N2EY
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« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2010, 02:30:08 PM »

Active licenses was the query.  Yes it does include club licenses as well. But, the calls are valid and licenses are good.  It does not include calls in the grace period.  5% as club calls seems to be reasonable.

I think FCC defines "active" as any license in the database that has not been revoked, suspended or cancelled. That includes licenses in the grace period, because such a license can be renewed simply by sending in the right forms, or online.

Hamdata.com says there are about 731,000 hams including grace-period licenses but not including clubs. ARRL says about 690,000 hams not including grace-period licenses nor clubs. Your total is higher than both, which says to me that it includes both clubs and licenses in the grace period.

73 de Jim, N2EY

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N3XP
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« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2010, 05:09:18 PM »

Active licenses was the query.  Yes it does include club licenses as well. But, the calls are valid and licenses are good.  It does not include calls in the grace period.  5% as club calls seems to be reasonable.

I think FCC defines "active" as any license in the database that has not been revoked, suspended or cancelled. That includes licenses in the grace period, because such a license can be renewed simply by sending in the right forms, or online.

Hamdata.com says there are about 731,000 hams including grace-period licenses but not including clubs. ARRL says about 690,000 hams not including grace-period licenses nor clubs. Your total is higher than both, which says to me that it includes both clubs and licenses in the grace period.

73 de Jim, N2EY



If we need to be precise.  I did find an error in my first post.  Original I totally missed Puerto Rico, so the new total should be 731,116 which is the same or within 116 of the number being claimed by hamdata (you might want to review what ham data is publishing, what you wrote above is not correct according to the hamdata site).  

http://www.hamdata.com/fccinfo.html

Next, an active license is one that has not expired.  If your license lapses into the two year period, it's still expired but not yet canceled - which happens after the two years in expiration.  If the ARRL is counting only individuals, which is fine, I don't dispute that 690,000 number.  I pulled all licenses that are currently active as of today.  That number came to 731K.  Now, I know I am sure my number includes many people who are no longer participating in the hobby, may be deceased, could be incarcerated, or incapacitated.  As for the clubs, there are 41116 (the difference between the ARRL numbers and my numbers - but I believe the ARRL number to be old), and you can work them and log them so I counted them as licenses (which they are).  Clubs represents 5.6% of all licenses.

If you're really concerned about pinning down the exact precise number you can get the FCC data here:

http://wireless.fcc.gov/uls/weeklypn.htm?job=transaction&page=weekly

I would use the Sunday database, just to make sure there were no new licenses being added while you were querying - to be precise.
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« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2010, 07:38:56 PM »



If we need to be precise.  I did find an error in my first post.  Original I totally missed Puerto Rico[/quote]

No you didn't, it shows on your list as 4818 hams.  Unless somehow you modified your post while I wasn't looking.



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« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2010, 06:27:48 AM »



If we need to be precise.  I did find an error in my first post.  Original I totally missed Puerto Rico

No you didn't, it shows on your list as 4818 hams.  Unless somehow you modified your post while I wasn't looking.




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I did go back and add PR and update the total.  The funny thing was that the list came about during a discussion of how many licenses there are in PR.
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W7ETA
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« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2010, 10:21:53 PM »

Wonder what they do with Antarctica?
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