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Author Topic: KENWOOD Programing  (Read 1220 times)
KC2CFH
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« on: December 14, 2006, 09:36:01 AM »

Hello all

I have a TH-G71 HT and a TM-G707A I bought the programing cables and down loaded the software but have found a problem.

First the cables use female parellel connectors,  I am pretty sure that I can not turn the parallel (printer) connection on my PC to a COM 1 or COM 2 port which is what the program uses.  I solved this by just converting the parallel to a serial, no big deal but why does the program cables come with parallel connectors?

Now I have a realy big problem, my new PC's have neither a serial nor a parallel (except printer) ports. I, like many others have plenty of USB ports but convert from the parallel to USB ??

I could get  a card and put it into one of the few remaining PCI slots in the new PC's but this can not be done with the laptop which is what I need to program my mobile, without having to remove the entire rig from my car bring it in the house and so on.

I know some people are saying just do it the old fashioned way, but programing all the memory channels dual band, and split shifts can take me a couple of hours and thats why I bought the programing cable.

Sorry about rambling on. It's driving me nuts.
Thanks
Tom
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N8UZE
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« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2006, 10:03:27 AM »

You can easily buy USB to serial adapters that simply plug into the USB ports on your computer.  No need for a card and no need to open the computer up at all.

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KC2CFH
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« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2006, 10:57:45 AM »

My first thought was the USB to serial but I was reading on some other boards about driver problems for the adapter and being able to select a com port.  Have you heard anything about this or should I ignore it.  I saw a brand called "KEYSPAN" AT COMPUSA that had a good HAM review but am hesitant about the drivers and ports.

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N8UZE
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« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2006, 05:37:37 PM »

I've not had any problems and I don't know what type the one I have is (cheap is all I remember).  However, I have heard good things about the Belkin brand.
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KC2MMI
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« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2006, 07:59:13 AM »

Keyspan and IBM have gotten almost universal praise for their USB/Serial adapters. Belkin, who usually make good stuff, have been way more problematic.

Look for an adapter that is certified for use with your operating system, i.e. the MS "Designed for XP" logo. No logo means either someone didn't want to pay for the testing (which isn't cheap) or couldn't be bothered with it, or couldn't pass it. I won't waste my time figuring out why they didn't bother to get certified.

What kind of obsolete software (??) shipped with PARALLEL cables? Are are they DB-25 serial cables, rather than Centronics parallel cables?

I'd still spend the $10 for a real serial/parallel i/o card for the desktop, because one day you're going to ask "Does this work? Or is the USB adapter not working?" and real hardware ports eliminate that question.
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KC2CFH
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« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2006, 09:37:25 AM »

The software is actually free for download from Kenwood, the cables are what you have to pay for.  The cables are DB-25 (spent too much time near the amp, I get confused) LOL.

I can't seem to remember ever seeing a DB-25 on any PC for over ten years and the DB-9 is all but history now too.  After much searching I did find a PCI card (yep PCI) that has the DB-9 and the DB-25.  With new PC's having only 3 PCI slots some people may not find these helpful.

The big question is why are the manufactures of the programing software and cables still using outdated modes of connection to PC's.
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« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2007, 01:25:07 PM »

"The big question is why are the manufactures of the programing software and cables still using outdated modes of connection to PC's. "
 Old stock, or a cheap source in China. A DB-25/DB-9F adapter shouldn't cost more than five bucks in any case.
 Unless you're at an office supply store, where hey like to sell two dollar cables for thirty bucks.<G>

 Or you go to Rat Shack, ask to be escorted to the back room (where they keep the component drawers these days) and buy a DB-9F and solder it on.
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KJ4ABU
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« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2007, 01:58:05 PM »

Has anyone tried the USB cable that comes from Hong Kong for $6 or so with a similar charge for shipping on ebay?  I'm tempted, it comes with a mini-cd with drivers for it.  I guess I could try to send them a money order instead of giving them access to my e-funds...
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