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Author Topic: Ban on QRZ.COM.  (Read 9647 times)
N3OX
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« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2010, 04:57:43 PM »

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Anyone who hides behind some "secret identity" on a forum like this, instead of posting his/her actual call,

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« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2010, 05:01:35 PM »

The gentleman's call sign is a legit UK call sign. The UK allows their hams to keep personal data unpublished, which is what this gentleman has chosen to do.

That has nothing to do with his whining about being mistreated in QRZ. Smiley
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« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2010, 03:00:33 AM »

  Hi,W3LK. Thank you for clarifying the position re: my call-sign,and personal information being witheld, if any of you Gentlemen have been to London,England ,recently,you would understand why anyone,with any items of value would not want to put their addresses on to the net. I think you Gentlemen have misunderstood why i made the comments re:political correctness,It was not I who was banned by QRZ.COM, I was expressing sympathy to a Stateside gentleman who was barred for sincerely held views HE expressed. I,have NEVER been banned/barred from any site. I ofcourse accept the right of QRZ.COM,E-HAM,etc,to run their sites as they see fit. Thanks W3LK,enjoy your weekend, 73,from a very windy London. 73 de Michael,G1WFK.
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« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2010, 09:44:46 AM »

You are welcome and I apologise for misunderstanding the situation on QRZ. I think most of us misunderstood what you were saying.

Lon
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« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2010, 02:33:38 PM »

if any of you Gentlemen have been to London,England ,recently,you would understand why anyone,with any items of value would not want to put their addresses on to the net.

I understand this, but it's impossible to hide anyway.

In about five seconds I found an address for you (I won't repeat all of it here) in Reydon, Southwold, Suffolk.  I have the whole address, anyone could find it.

I've always thought it was silly when hams had unlisted addresses, no matter who they are or where they live.

American hams often use P.O. Boxes for this, but they're all easily found, anyway, if someone wants to find them. Wink
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G1WFK
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« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2010, 01:53:41 AM »

  Hi,Lon.Thank you. Smiley. And WB2WIK. lol,how right you are om,there is no hiding place in the World of today, that is indeed my address, though at present I am /A, up in London. Family member is at the other address, Though i don,t see anything wrong in trying,albeit,unsuccessfully to protect ones privacy, Big Brother is nosey enough. Wink. Thank you for not giving whole address. Enjoy your weekends,Lon,and WB2WIK. 73 de Mike.
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« Reply #21 on: November 18, 2010, 05:08:15 AM »

Anyone who hides behind some "secret identity" on a forum like this, instead of posting his/her actual call, has NO valid opinon on anything. As far as I'm concerned, and I'll bet hundreds of other hams share in my opinion of them, any remarks made by an "anonymous"  are totally worthless.

That's ridiculous.
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« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2010, 10:50:36 AM »

What is a hypocrate? I can't spell either. The original poster appears to divide people into groups that he applies his(her) stereotypes. If your a liberal then you must be a "hypocrate". A hypocrate is a large box in which hippos are shipped. All liberals are degenerates?Huh Who want to discuss anything with a degenerate? You do have the right, like I do, to say dumb stuff.  Wink 73 Bill
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« Reply #23 on: November 22, 2010, 02:53:05 AM »

 Hi, I do wish some of you Gentlemen would read all of the posts before commenting. I repeat,It was not I who was banned by QRZ.COM. I was supporting the right of an American gentleman to hold,and express his opinion. How ironic that a few Americans,of all people, appear to be opposed to free speech. I repeat,I have NEVER been banned from any site. Bill, ( KB6YH}, I do know how to spell, HYPOCRITE, I am a one finger typist,and hit the wrong key,you being so clever would never do that ofcourse. Wink. K2FOX , Thank you Smiley. I did not say all liberals are degenerates, but,some are,and most appear to be apologists for degenerates, there may be some confusion over the definition of a "liberal", I was not really refering to political liberalism, but to the anything goes, do as please type, that is,anything goes unless it has a moral theme, if one expresses any kind of moral standard,belief,it is shouted down and ridiculed by the liberal establishment,{ if you really want to know what i mean,come over here and listen to the BBC domestic stations} . I apologise for once again deviating from the subject of ham radio,but i do have to defend myself against a very few gentlemen who seem determined to misrepresent my position. And,i am not "hiding", my call-sign,G1WFK,is a legit English call,issued to me by OFCOM.  73 de Michael,G1WFK.  PS. Bill,dont forget to check the spelling. Wink  Smiley  PPS. whether you support, Barack or Sarah,enjoy your day.  Smiley
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« Reply #24 on: November 22, 2010, 04:17:39 AM »

Michael,

The way your original post is written, there is no way to determine that you're not the person who was banned on QRZ.  You should have been clearer on that point to begin with.

Now, with that being said, the QRZ owner and webmaster has determined that his site will be run in a certain way.  He has that right since HE pays the bills to keep that site on the web.  This site could do the same if it so chose to.  The plain simple truth of the matter is that Fred, the owner of QRZ wants that site run in a certain way--and no matter what YOU may want to say, if he doesn't want to grant you the right to say it, YOU HAVE NO RECOURSE!

The guarantee of Free Speech does not give you the right to say anything you want anywhere.  There is a classic example of that--yelling 'FIRE!' in a crowded theater.  Sure, you can do it--but be prepared to pay the price!  The real meaning of 'Free Speech' is the right to express your opinion in a civilized and calm manner in a public forum.  Since any website that is privately controlled is not such a public forum, but a private one which may or may not be open to the public (yes, there is a difference) there is no law that says you can say or do anything you may want to on such a site.
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« Reply #25 on: November 22, 2010, 10:55:28 AM »

Hi Mike. Your point about spelling is well taken. I did say that I can't spell. In the USA we have degenerates that are conservatives. A liberal, to me, is someone who gives a darn about other people..... that believe in the Golden Rule. Some hams act like anyone that is running less than the legal limit is a degenerate.  Wink When someones wants to ban a library book...that person could be a liberal or conservative. In the USA it is often a conservative. 73 Bill
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« Reply #26 on: November 22, 2010, 05:51:18 PM »

It always makes me laugh when people get
righteously indignant about their right to "Free Speech"
being infringed upon by Internet forum moderators.

If you don't like it, pay for the server and the bandwidth
and start your own website.

....oh, and don't let the door hit ya in the ass on yer way out! Grin

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G1WFK
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« Reply #27 on: November 23, 2010, 02:14:28 AM »

 Hello Chris. Having just re-read my initial post I accept your point,it should have been made clearer that I was NOT the person banned by QRZ. I was merely commenting upon it. Fred,ofcourse has the right to run QRZ as he sees fit,let me make it clear,I have NOTHING AGAINST,Fred,nor his site,its a good one,and well run,as is EHAM. I was really making a general point re: freedom of speech. You are perfectly correct,absolute frredom of speech could not exist,otherwise, Paedophiles,pornographers,etc, could propagate their evil opinions anywhere they choose.{ Though here in the British Isles,the latter,have pretty well freedom of the airwaves, if I wanted to open a radio station broadcasting semi-pornography,i would have little difficulty in obtaining a licence,but if i wanted to open a station broadcasting religious programming,my application would be denied, these Islands are morally bankrupt}. But I had always assumed that freedom of expression must always apply in three areas. RELIGION.MORALITY.AND POLITICS. I opened a can of worms with my comments,I had not intended this to happen,but one comment lead to another,and it all got a bit out of hand. I really was commenting on a lack of freedom of speech in society in general,not on specific sites. I thank all for their constructive comments,for and against my views. Sadly a very few decided not to join in the debate,but to snipe at me from the touchline, with comments such as, "secret identity", "anonymous" "hidden". This puzzled me greatly,as EVERY post was clearly identified,with my callsign,and name. I can only assume they are dyslexic.  Wink Bill,thanks for taking my little joke,re:spelling,in the spirit in which it was intended. Smiley Enjoyed your comment about the California kilowatt. Smiley You are correct,degenerates come from all sections of society. By the way,my comments were not aimed at American politics, whatever the rights or wrongs of things over your way,they are not my concern.  Wink. AD6KA. thanks for the laugh. Wink Wink. A good day to you all. 73 de Michael.G1WFK. Smiley
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« Reply #28 on: November 23, 2010, 03:39:01 AM »

Differences of opinion happen, Michael.  That's why forums like this one and QRZ are so popular.  Here, one can flame, and maybe even curse and use more colorful language that would be allowed on QRZ.  So be it--if that's what the site moderators want to let happen.

I've expressed myself on QRZ--sometimes strongly--and have not been sanctioned there except for one time when one of my posts was removed and I was warned that a certain term used would not be tolerated.  You've just got to watch what you say and how you say it--but you can still say it on QRZ as long as you leave the more colorful language out of your post!

BYW, my apologies if I came on a bit strong.  I still marvel, however, at people who just don't get the point that one does NOT have to use four letter words--that is, the more colorful language--to get their point across.  People who use such language with every third or fourth word out of their mouth being one of the more colorful terms ought to relearn how to express themselves.  This world would be a better place if all of them would!

73!
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KB6YH
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« Reply #29 on: November 23, 2010, 10:44:23 AM »

Mike, you are a bit of alright. Isn't that an English expression. I am supposed to be a decendent of Edward I and have ancesters that were commedians in England. Ha! Ha! Keep smiling. Bill
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