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Author Topic: == ZONING ==  (Read 6742 times)
KB1BZR
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« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2011, 06:42:40 PM »

Despite the desire at obtaining help all it seems I got here were attacks on me.


Yes. I vented at the inability to operate an Amateur Radio Station.



Solutions have been I am 100% guilty.




I have tried to do everything as to cleaning up a piece of property and the matter of 'junk' as most have assumed the only problem that existed.



My father is dead now. He died trying to keep up to the town as to anything to operate Amateur Radio.


Any wire or metal for an antenna is in violation of the Recycle laws.


I myself have been instructed to remove all wire or metal that is used as antennas, etc.



The root seems to be a neighbor that simply does not like Amateur Radio.




So curse at me BUT I assure you this will spread everywhere. Many have chronically not liked Amateur Radio operators (antennas..interference, etc.) but if it only takes a 'recycle department' to void any ability..well...



Blight Laws with vague definitions. Recycle Laws that include anything composing an antenna. (if plastic conducted that would have to be removed.)



Find new hobbies....







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K4KWH
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« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2011, 09:55:36 AM »

I feel so fortunate to be free of excessive zoning laws and oppressive HOA's.  Faced with these overbearing city officials, I WOULD get into trouble! YEP!  This country has become a rung on the ladder in the climb to socialism.  Big gub'ment, central control of everything, even one's toilet habits, somebody that must do for you what they believe you have not the capability!  Cookie-cutter houses that a fat guy'd have to turn sideways to walk between.  Little four-eyed HOA nazis peering in your yard to see if there's some ordinance or rule you've violated. And runaway zoning officers coming to tell you can't this or that.  I want NO part of such!  And I refuse to live in such a place! 

Now.  Having said that, there's obviously something about your property the zoning nazi doesn't like.  So I would correct THAT, then visit the local zoning board, etc.  I would point out PRB-1 calls for "reasonable accomodation" for amateur antennas, and if they are insistent on you removing the wire antennas, etc, then you would be hiring an attorney familiar with communications law to see that the city complies with Federal law!  Chances are, they aren't even familiar with PRB-1, and like many cities, they think they can just order you around and make you goose step right along.  There's a chance the city, faced with a bit of determination, will back down and accomodate you to some extent to be determined later.   I know I I'm not backing down and if I have to, I'd move with my third finger showing them just  what I think of them. Make friends with some of the city council.

 Ya know, our town recently enacted some rather onorous garbage collection fees.  The residents are up in arms over it, and several of the sitting council were voted OUT.  The new council has said they are going to get RID of the new fees AND FIRE the current city manager!   Things CAN get done if you go about it correctly! 
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N2EY
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« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2011, 11:01:17 AM »

Despite the desire at obtaining help all it seems I got here were attacks on me.

What I see are suggestions about what to do - and your rejection of them.

Yes. I vented at the inability to operate an Amateur Radio Station.

There is nothing in the ordinances prohibiting antennas. You could operate any time you wanted. Just put up an antenna.

What the ordinances prohibit is leaving unused antennas and components lying around.

Solutions have been I am 100% guilty.
I have tried to do everything as to cleaning up a piece of property and the matter of 'junk' as most have assumed the only problem that existed.

Your posts don't give a lot of detail. No pictures. No specifics from the town. Someone else had to post the ordinances. How are we to know the real story from the limited stuff you posted?

My father is dead now. He died trying to keep up to the town as to anything to operate Amateur Radio.

I am sorry for your loss. But how did the town prevent him from enjoying Amateur Radio?

Any wire or metal for an antenna is in violation of the Recycle laws.

I myself have been instructed to remove all wire or metal that is used as antennas, etc.

Instructed by whom? Under what ordinance?

An antenna that is up in the air, connected and operational is one thing. Antenna parts lying on the ground are something quite different.

The root seems to be a neighbor that simply does not like Amateur Radio.

So curse at me BUT I assure you this will spread everywhere. Many have chronically not liked Amateur Radio operators (antennas..interference, etc.) but if it only takes a 'recycle department' to void any ability..well...

No one is cursing at you. But folks are questioning your story and asking for more information.

Blight Laws with vague definitions. Recycle Laws that include anything composing an antenna. (if plastic conducted that would have to be removed.)

Are you referring to an actual, working antenna that is inthe air and operational, or parts lying about, and old antennas not used any more?

73 de Jim, N2EY
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W3LK
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« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2011, 06:10:51 PM »

Interesting ...

The cal sign used for posting is a club station and the call sign for the trustee (presumably the poster) WL7WO, was cancelled  on 14 July 2011.

A new call sign, KH8AC was issued.
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N3WAK
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« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2011, 06:11:56 PM »

I am sorry for your loss, too.  

However, KB1BZR apparently has lots of issues, and hopes that we will keep paying attention.  I think everybody would be better off if we stopped indulging him.  In fact, I thought this absurd thread was dead and buried several months ago.  

73, Tony N3WAK
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N2EY
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« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2011, 08:27:02 PM »

This country has become a rung on the ladder in the climb to socialism.

Socialism? I don't think you really understand what the word means.

Socialism means The Government, at various levels, provides certain things rather than private businesses.

For example, consider the public roads, highways, bridges, tunnels, waterways, ports, airports, etc. They're a form of socialised transport.

Or consider Social Security (socialised pensions) Medicare (socialised medical insurance), unemployment compensation (socialised income insurance.

National Weather Service is another example. State universities and community colleges. Municipal utilities and much more.

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  Big gub'ment, central control of everything, even one's toilet habits, somebody that must do for you what they believe you have not the capability! 

Which of the examples I mentioned do you want to remove? Want to buy ALL your own health insurance from private insurers when you're 75? Or even 65?

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Cookie-cutter houses that a fat guy'd have to turn sideways to walk between.  Little four-eyed HOA nazis peering in your yard to see if there's some ordinance or rule you've violated.

Actually, HOAs and cookie-cutter developments are the result of SMALL government and good old free-market capitalism. Cookie-cutter houses cost less to build, and HOAs remove the need for zoning, nuisance ordinances, etc. 

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Ya know, our town recently enacted some rather onorous garbage collection fees.  The residents are up in arms over it, and several of the sitting council were voted OUT.  The new council has said they are going to get RID of the new fees AND FIRE the current city manager!   Things CAN get done if you go about it correctly! 

But why did they enact the fees? Are they trying to pay for other things with them, or have costs gone up?

73 de Jim, N2EY
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