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Author Topic: Auckland / Campbell Islands  (Read 5467 times)
AD9DX
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« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2012, 07:28:45 AM »

I don't agree that entities that are "impossible" to activate should be deleted.  I am fairly new to the DX game so I haven't worked any of the unable to activate ones. But I don't want to cheapen the award.
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« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2012, 07:53:38 AM »

My DX mentor thinks there are a set of islands that will never be visited again due to "environmental concerns".

I'm on the fence about that - I thought Desecheo would never be visited again, but with time, things change.

There are.  These are the ones under the control by the Communistic Socialist Tree-Hugging US Fish and Wildlife such as Johnston Atoll, Midway ISlands, Kure Island, Navassa Island, etc.
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« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2012, 08:21:17 AM »

I always say, "never say never."

Also, if all entities were easy to get, what would be the use of having an award? Might as well just print up a bunch of certificates and give them away free.

But I do think that DXCC is fast becoming, "who's been DXing the longest." What would help is restricting the award to current entities only and not deleted. There's challenge for that of course, but still...
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« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2012, 08:23:36 AM »

I always say, "never say never."

Also, if all entities were easy to get, what would be the use of having an award? Might as well just print up a bunch of certificates and give them away free.

But I do think that DXCC is fast becoming, "who's been DXing the longest." What would help is restricting the award to current entities only and not deleted. There's challenge for that of course, but still...

Deletes do not count toward Honor Roll - not sure what you mean by "What would help is restricting the award to current entities only and not deleted." . . . .

Honor Roll will always favor those DX-ing the longest since many entities are only activated every 10 years - or even more.

Honor Roll #1 is definitely a lifetime long award. . . .
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« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2012, 08:46:06 AM »

Oh I know they don't count to HR (and challenge) but they do count to your totals.

I believe CQ mag's DX awards do not count deleted entities.
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« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2012, 12:41:40 PM »

The latest word is that they hope to arrive on Campbell on Friday - WX permitting. No word yet as to whether or not they would stay longer than scheduled to make up for lost time. I'll let you know when I hear that news. DX World will also have the up to the minute scoop . . .
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« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2012, 09:18:14 PM »

times is the right person making the right contacts and what we thought could never be is suddenly on the DX Calendar.

And the right sized campaign contribution to the right person.
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« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2012, 09:22:25 PM »

Now these places are left with no human activity and we as a country are deciding these are nature areas to be kept as pristine as possible.

Funny, I am part of the USA, and I don't recall that issue ever appearing on a ballot.  We as a country aren't deciding that, a few well placed individuals are.
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« Reply #23 on: November 27, 2012, 03:46:20 AM »

Now these places are left with no human activity and we as a country are deciding these are nature areas to be kept as pristine as possible.

Funny, I am part of the USA, and I don't recall that issue ever appearing on a ballot.  We as a country aren't deciding that, a few well placed individuals are.


As much as the government represents the people. We as a country decide alot of things - it doesn't mean either you or I agree with any of them. I don't remember getting asked to fund a war in  Iraq, but, hey, for better or for worse, I was obliged (forcibly) to chip in.
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« Reply #24 on: November 27, 2012, 05:26:49 AM »

A prime example of "reasonable accommodation" is the ZL9HR operation. These guys made it through quarantine inspection in a record 2 hours. The officials mentioned that this is a record for any groups going to Auckland or Campbell. They are "playing well" with the DoC, are bringing a representative along and leaving the island at night.

They still spent the money and are braving the "Roaring 40's" to get there. Others wouldn't have the "intestinal fortitude". Talk about "doing yeomans work" . . .

The same can be said of the K5D team and any DX-pedition that KK6EK puts on (Clipperton and Heard Island).

This is the only reason I get frustrated - there are several 100% proof positive examples that hams are good stewards of the earth and show the utmost in respect for the environment and safety.

If you ask me - the US F&W should take advantages of us hams. I understand that Kingman Reef needs to be "re-surveyed". Have the hams bring representatives of the US F&W and let them survey while we crank out Q's.

I know - I'm dreaming . . . .  Grin
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« Reply #25 on: November 27, 2012, 05:41:17 AM »

Now these places are left with no human activity and we as a country are deciding these are nature areas to be kept as pristine as possible.

Funny, I am part of the USA, and I don't recall that issue ever appearing on a ballot.  We as a country aren't deciding that, a few well placed individuals are.


As much as the government represents the people. We as a country decide alot of things - it doesn't mean either you or I agree with any of them. I don't remember getting asked to fund a war in  Iraq, but, hey, for better or for worse, I was obliged (forcibly) to chip in.

You didn't pay for it. It was all "emergency" deficit spending, that was somehow unpredictable, year after year. It' funny (in a sad way), the same politicians who had no problem with this, or the unfunded Medicare drug plan (that disallowed negotiated discounts, for good measure), are now deficit hawks.
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« Reply #26 on: November 27, 2012, 09:47:41 AM »

A prime example of "reasonable accommodation" is the ZL9HR operation. These guys made it through quarantine inspection in a record 2 hours. The officials mentioned that this is a record for any groups going to Auckland or Campbell. They are "playing well" with the DoC, are bringing a representative along and leaving the island at night.

They still spent the money and are braving the "Roaring 40's" to get there. Others wouldn't have the "intestinal fortitude". Talk about "doing yeomans work" . . .

The same can be said of the K5D team and any DX-pedition that KK6EK puts on (Clipperton and Heard Island).

This is the only reason I get frustrated - there are several 100% proof positive examples that hams are good stewards of the earth and show the utmost in respect for the environment and safety.

If you ask me - the US F&W should take advantages of us hams. I understand that Kingman Reef needs to be "re-surveyed". Have the hams bring representatives of the US F&W and let them survey while we crank out Q's.

I know - I'm dreaming . . . .  Grin

I agree, it seems hams would be the last ones wanting to screw up under threat of never getting an opportunity to return. Plus there are many past examples of amateurs joining a scientific (or whatever) expedition and actually participating in the work. 
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« Reply #27 on: November 27, 2012, 05:43:36 PM »

Rich
I didn't see where this had been asked before but I could have missed it.  Do you know what time approximately the ZL9 team will be getting on the island and what time they will have to depart in GMT time?  I know it's summer in the southern hemisphere so they should experience longer daylight hours.
Thanks Randy
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« Reply #28 on: November 27, 2012, 06:07:03 PM »

They plan on being on the island each day from 1500 - 1000z.

They hope to arrive early Friday and at least get one or 2 stations going right away with 5 going later in the day.

I don't know yet if they will stay longer - to make up for the delay.

I will let you know asap.

73,

Rich
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« Reply #29 on: November 28, 2012, 04:57:15 AM »

Thanks Rich!!  I was looking at my ACE-HF propagation program to try and figure out when to expect them and where.
Thanks Randy
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