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Author Topic: Is 4W6A even trying to reach NA or SA ?  (Read 12314 times)
KD8MJR
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« on: September 18, 2011, 10:44:17 AM »

I have heard them on 4 occasions (phone 20M & 15M) and every time the signal was very weak but IMO workable.
My gripe is that if they never seem to be listening for stations on this side of the world.
IMO if they did more of us could get through but Instead I hear them working every ham in They work Australia, Italy and many other parts of Europe, lots in Japan but the only stations in NA or SA that get through are the ones in NA on the west coast, and they seem to be mostly the superstations that can break through the constant Italian pileups.

On another note, 400 watts and Hexbeam do not give me the impression that they ever really planned to make lots of QSO in NA or SA.
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KC7YRA
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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2011, 11:40:10 AM »

Their first day on 20ssb they were calling "NA Only".

There is still time to get them.  Soon, they will be begging for contacts  Wink


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N5MOA
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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2011, 12:28:42 PM »

They have called for NA only several times on 20m, 17m, 15m, 12m and 10m that I have heard.

 It is a tough path (I think, I don't live there) from the East coast.

As of the last log update, 7775 qsos.

4335 ASIA
1880 EU
1001 NA    91 zone 5   141+ zone 4   346+ zone 3  

The West coast is going to have the easiest time with this one from NA. You can check their log for the times/bands they have been worked from zone 5. Might give you an idea when you have a better shot.
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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2011, 12:50:06 PM »

I don't usually complain, but I would think 30 or 40 meters at greyline should do it. I have not heard them then, woke at 5am today but nothing.
Lots of time, I know. But I thought they had 4 stations on the air.

It will work out, but I am surprised they are not on 30.

Paul
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N5MOA
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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2011, 01:02:46 PM »

They were on 30m around 15:00, about a s-5, but I didn't hear them work anything but JA's.

I have not seen them come up on 40m until well after sun up here.

They were 5/7-8 on 15m this morning about 13:00 or so, but working EU.

Observation, not complaining, I've worked them on a couple of bands.

Good luck.
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« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2011, 01:33:30 PM »

I'll never complain either.  I appreciate them being out there for us to try to work.  This will be a tough one, though, for those of us not in 6- or 7-land.  I note that with the first log posting today, only two stations from the USA were in the top 100 for band slots.

They have not really been in synch yet for propagation--such as it is--over the weekend for NA and SA.  I worked ZL and VK on 10 and 12 during daylight hours with 100 watts and a hexbeam yesterday but 4W6A was on 160 and 80 at the time.

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N4JTE
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« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2011, 01:56:58 PM »

I tried a few times around 5pm here on 40 meters, sat, they were 5-5 listening up but no chance as they were buried by european stations.
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KD8MJR
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« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2011, 04:32:12 PM »

Today is even worst, I have not heard them once.
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« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2011, 07:49:38 PM »

I have heard them on 4 occasions (phone 20M & 15M) and every time the signal was very weak but IMO workable.
My gripe is that if they never seem to be listening for stations on this side of the world.
IMO if they did more of us could get through but Instead I hear them working every ham in They work Australia, Italy and many other parts of Europe, lots in Japan but the only stations in NA or SA that get through are the ones in NA on the west coast, and they seem to be mostly the superstations that can break through the constant Italian pileups.

On another note, 400 watts and Hexbeam do not give me the impression that they ever really planned to make lots of QSO in NA or SA.

It's understandable that during the first few days of a major DXpedition, they work the strong openings and loud signals first. That makes it easier to get to the next layer of weaker signals from stations with less favorable propagation or more modest equipment.

The 12m opening this evening to the northeast USA was productive, with 4W6A calling "NA only" and many stations getting through. I worked them with a KW and a 3-element beam; they were about 559 with QSB.
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« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2011, 03:28:08 AM »

East coast on 30m -- try around 2100-2200z. Very good sig yesterday but pileup was huge.
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« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2011, 06:39:14 AM »

Glad I worked 4W6AL in 2009. Nice to not have to fight the pile even though it IS fun...  Cool
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« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2011, 06:53:49 AM »

Not to worry folks. I've been listening to them for almost 2 hours with a 59 signal in Florida on 18147 working almost all US
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« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2011, 07:05:24 AM »

Not to worry folks. I've been listening to them for almost 2 hours with a 59 signal in Florida on 18147 working almost all US
Baaaah, and of course I'm at work.
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« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2011, 09:16:40 AM »

They've been extremely weak to New Jersey the whole time. Managed two Q's only so far (15m SSB and 12m CW) and both those were very challenging and borderline ESP. The Zone5 stats say it all. I hope that as their pileups decrease (if they decrease at all), that they'll analyze propagation to the east coast and set aside that hour or so exclusively for our part of the world, just as many of the south-Pacific operations do for Europe and Caribbean/SA ops do for JA.
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« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2011, 09:48:31 AM »

Popped him this AM @ 1630Z on 14023.6 listening up 5.  Apparently an all EU pileup, but he answered me quickly.  After a few US station broke thru, they called for NA repeatedly.  I read that they have no internet connection from the operating site, so he may not be aware of some propagation openings to NA when EU and AS are strong at his QTH.  It may just take a few signals breaking thru to make them aware of secondary paths.

They were quite loud on 17m last nite working NA, but QSY'd to 10m just as I sat down at the rig.  I couldn't hear them on 10m.  Bad timing on my part, 17m would have been like shooting fish in a barrel.  Almost no pileup.
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