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Author Topic: Does anyone know what a "lid" is?  (Read 10289 times)
KC9KEP
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« on: December 30, 2011, 08:01:24 AM »

Hello,

I suppose this is kind of a dumb question, but looking through my old (circa 1931) QST magazines,
the readers occasionally refer to another operator as a "Lid".

I don't think it's a good thing!

Is anyone familiar with this lingo?

Thanks!

73

--KC9KEP
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K1WJ
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« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2011, 08:08:13 AM »

A lid in my view is an radio operator who gets on the radio and acts like a jackass.
Generally having very poor operating habits or skills - they degrade the airwaves.

73 K1WJ David
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W5FYI
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« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2011, 08:37:14 AM »

"Lid" is CW slang for "poor operator'" or "beginner;" generally someone who thinks they "know it all," but, in fact, know little; or those who practice poor operating procedures.
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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2011, 09:19:52 AM »

Another name for a lid could be a Dweeb, a Nimrod or even a Bozo.
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« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2011, 11:21:43 AM »

In the VHF/UHF FM repeater world, a "lid" is ...

-A person who uses the phrase, "I am destinated."

-Or one who throws out his callsign every two minutes, followed by, "For ID."

-Or one who announces his common first name, then proceeds to spell it phonetically.

Happy new year!

Clint K6LCS
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« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2011, 12:30:21 PM »

also the top of a container...Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2011, 12:42:07 PM »

L icensed  ID iot.
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K2OWK
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« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2011, 02:18:41 PM »

If I remember correctly a LID is a sort of ham operator with very poor operating habits. In the old days (I have been a ham operator for more then 50 years). A LID was a guy who would sweep the band with his VFO with his transmitter outputting full power causing interference to everyone trying to use a particular band. Not a very nice or courteous operator, but that said we do have worse today because of the number a licenced ham operators is much greater then when the test was harder and code was required. I still enjoy my hobby as most operators are great, and a pleasure to talk to. It is the less then 1% that cause the trouble.

73s

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K8AXW
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« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2011, 08:47:47 PM »

1WJ pretty well nailed the definition of "LID."

I also like:
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L icensed  ID iot.

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K0OD
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« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2011, 12:27:47 PM »

If you go back to the pre-WWI dawn of our hobby, "lid" and "ham" were almost synonymous in the lingo of landline telegraph ops. The muted term 'lid" has fallen into disuse in recent years as hams began using more overtly coarse terms to refer to bad ops, especially in pileups. 
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« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2011, 03:27:33 PM »

CQ CQ CQ "No lids, no kids, no space cadets".

If you are really an old timer, you will know what (who) I am talking about.

Dick  AD4U
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KD6KWZ
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« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2012, 12:38:02 AM »

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Or one who announces his common first name, then proceeds to spell it phonetically.

Going by Mike is understood how to spell it by most who can speak English, I find.

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A LID was a guy who would sweep the band with his VFO with his transmitter outputting full power causing interference to everyone trying to use a particular band.

I still think some are doing that, when I see the waterfall frequency displays on WebSDR, when I see a strong signal going up or down in frequency.

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CQ CQ CQ "No lids, no kids, no space cadets".

Old Tom Kneitel said that he hated hams who said that.

This post made me look up who said that quote, While looking, I found a ham humor site:
http://www.ac6v.com/humor.htm

One of the "Famous DX Quotes" sounds like a lid at work:

"Good for you - you broke the pileup. -- Goodness had nothing to do with it, dearie."
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W7ETA
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« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2012, 01:14:02 AM »

"Or one who announces his common first name, then proceeds to spell it phonetically."

Hey! HEY!!!

For decades I've had lots of FUN telling USA ops that my name is Bob, Bob-Oscar-Bob.  I started using those phonetics when I heard too many other ops using Broken-Old-Bottle.

Lids are on top of toilets in all residential buildings. 
My trash can also has a lid.
I seem to remember reading in a comic book, "The Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers", that lid was an ounce of weed?

lid could be from the telegraph era.  Some used flat tin boxes with lids, like old chewing tobacco tins, on top of where the clicker's striker hit.  That also seems to be associated with having a "Tin Ear".

73
Bob


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« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2012, 04:01:39 AM »

See 14.195 MHz.
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« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2012, 07:36:07 AM »

"Lid" is CW slang for "poor operator'" or "beginner;" generally someone who thinks they "know it all," but, in fact, know little; or those who practice poor operating procedures.

That is it in a nutshell, although I would add any operator who doesn't care about other operators and is empty in the 'manners' department.
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