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Author Topic: 530-1700 KHz: Hearing Europe From the U.S.  (Read 32803 times)
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« on: April 28, 2012, 06:28:18 AM »

Last winter I thought it was interesting to pick up a few Euro and African broadcast stations in the longwave 150-200 KHz range. But I've never heard such DX in the U.S. AM BCB. I doubt many Americans have, especially those living inland.

Have you (North Americans) ever heard intercontinental DX in the AM broadcast band? Any tips to offer as far as loudest stations and best frequencies/times?
 
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« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2012, 06:38:39 AM »

Google WA1ION, Mark is the master at BCB DX. 
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« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2012, 08:15:16 AM »

Hey thanks Chuck!  WA1ION has run some impressive A/B tests on sophisticated BCB antennas including Beverages, ewes and K9AYs.
http://www.qsl.net/wa1ion/bev/rowley_antenna_shootout.pdf
http://www.qsl.net/wa1ion/index.html

Oh to live on Cape Cod. Here's some of his U.S. BCB spots of places like Greece, Egypt and even Sudan.
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/archive/index.php/t-623946.html
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« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2012, 03:18:32 PM »

I think those guys are near the ocean. Anyone try that from the central USA? I never have, not between 550 and 1700 KHz. The only DX I've heard from here is the Caribbean and Central America, and that was with a cheap receiver with a built-in antenna.
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« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2012, 08:00:25 PM »

20ish years ago Radio Belize had serious signal on 835 kHz that was often copied by me near Tulsa... Typically dead of winter, and tuning past the freq it was hard to miss the heterodyne when the condx were right. Setup at the time was an R-390 driven by what best could be described as an "Bevera". At 150' on the BCB it was way too short to be a Beverage, but it did look like one....     Wink
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« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2012, 08:17:19 PM »

Another station in that general direction that I've heard every time I've listened for it is on the west coast of Mexico. They are running 500,000 watts, IIRC. Somewhere between 1000 and 1190 KHz, I think.

But we were talking about Europe on the AM BC band. Someday I'll have to try and listen in that direction.
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« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2012, 08:38:36 PM »

XEG --- 1050 kHz --- La Ranchera De Monterrey, Baja California !!

http://tunein.com/radio/La-Ranchera-de-Monterrey-1050-s24506/

(...and don't forget to give the R's in 'Ranchera and Monterrey' an extra long roll. That's what the professional radio pronouncers at XEG do)
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« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2012, 08:40:21 PM »

Si, SeƱor! That ees thee station! Muchas Gracias!  Grin

It's 40 over 9 here in Missouri right now. But no habla espanol.  Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2012, 09:13:14 PM »

Who could the station be on 530 KHz?

It's 35 over 9, and the QRN is 25 over. It's in a foreign language (probably Spanish), playing instrumental organ and some kind of horn/piano music right now. It's loudest on my SE 580' long bi-dir Beverage.

(BTW, my NW Beverage antenna is broke. Neighbor hit it with his truck. If it's coming from the NW, I wouldn't know.)

Couldn't find anything conclusive on a Google search of "530 KHz".

Probably ought to post this in its own thread.
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« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2012, 05:01:20 PM »

XEG --- 1050 kHz --- La Ranchera De Monterrey, Baja California !!

http://tunein.com/radio/La-Ranchera-de-Monterrey-1050-s24506/

(...and don't forget to give the R's in 'Ranchera and Monterrey' an extra long roll. That's what the professional radio pronouncers at XEG do)
Not in Baja California, it's in Nuevo Leon, Mexico. Southwest of Laredo, Texas.
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« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2012, 07:43:20 PM »

Thanks. And it's 100 kW, not 500 like I think they used to run.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XEG-AM
http://www.mwlist.org/mwlist_quick_and_easy.php?area=3&kHz=1050
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« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2012, 12:01:32 PM »

I verified over 50 countries on the BCB from back in Nebraska during the 60s and 70's including Senegal in Africa, and England, France, Germany, Norway and Spain in Europe.  I now reside in Arizona, and with the breaking up of the clear channels, I seldom hear the Eastern U.S.
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« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2012, 03:56:19 PM »

I now reside in Arizona, and with the breaking up of the clear channels, I seldom hear the Eastern U.S.

We can appreciate that. Do you have any kind of directional antenna, or room for one? It might not reduce interference from stations between you and the East coast, but it might help reduce it from other directions.
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« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2012, 04:54:55 AM »

There are a number of MW DX enthusiasts which regularly hear Europe, South America and the Mid-East on MW.  The secrets are propagation and using the right antenna, Flags, Loops, Split Delta, etc...  Having a coastal location helps rather a lot, also.  However, during the last big solar storm (end of March?) the bands were dominated by South Americans to the point of the big US power houses, WBZ, WCBS, WTAM being simply gone and replaced by South Americans.

An "east" one I've heard using a BCB loop and hand held portable (Tecsun PL-310) is the big Saudi outlet on 1521.  The fall and winter months are notably best but there is an opening now and again during spring/summer.

Chuck Rippel - WA4HHG
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« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2012, 06:15:28 AM »

Chuck, I was going to mention the Saudi station on 1521. From what I find online, SWLs often use it as a propagation bellwether. I understand it pounds into much of Europe running I believe 500 KW and a big array aimed into Europe and, as a result, into NA.   

Should mention for MW/LW beginners (like me) that Euro broadcasters are usually spaced 9 kHz apart while ours of course are 10 kHz apart.  I wonder how many receivers can be set to tune in 9 kHz steps like the Flex? Bet many of us have that ability but don't know what it's for.
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