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Author Topic: What to buy Kenwood TS-2000 or Yaesu FT-950  (Read 15578 times)
N4NYY
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« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2012, 05:23:29 PM »

If you are going to buy a HF only radio, forget the FT950 and get the TS590. Both from receiver performance and more importantly, usabillity point of view, it runs rings around the FT950. Also it has a USB port so you can do data,CAT control and firmware updates over USB.

I have not played with the 590, but I can tell you this. It is $200 more than the 950.

Secondly, not sure what the big deal is with USB. The 950 has a serial port, and I use a $25 USB-serial adapter to do rig control with HRD, as well as firmware updates.

For the money, you cannot beat the 950. You can get one for $1,400 shipped. You cannot say that for the 590.
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« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2012, 08:24:04 PM »

I have not played with the 590, but I can tell you this. It is $200 more than the 950.

Secondly, not sure what the big deal is with USB. The 950 has a serial port, and I use a $25 USB-serial adapter to do rig control with HRD, as well as firmware updates.

For the money, you cannot beat the 950. You can get one for $1,400 shipped. You cannot say that for the 590.

It is 200 well spent as 590 is a better radio hands down. Also why settle for a new rig without USB today?? So much more it possible with USB and RS232 is well past its prime. You can even send audio in and out and control rig via USB port on 590 too. BTW, the 950 is only 175 less after you factor in cost of USB adapter to support dated and limited serial interface.
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« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2012, 08:32:35 PM »

Of the two, the FT-950.

However, my caveats are:  If you like Yaesu, you might want to wait to see what the price on the FT-3000 is going to be - this will be a receiver based on the FTdx-5000d - an excellent radio.

And in this price range, the Ten-Tec Eagle should be given a gander - they do have a demo program.
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« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2012, 07:53:33 AM »

If the 950 was the equal of a 590 there would be no new 3000 but there is because the 950 is a lessor rig than 590.
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« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2012, 12:57:48 PM »

If the 950 was the equal of a 590 there would be no new 3000 but there is because the 950 is a lessor rig than 590.
 

Based on what? Opinion?  I do not think Sherwood listed the 950. As
The least,  not the last time I looked.

BTW,  $200 might not be anything to you. But it may be a deal killer for some.  The USB thing is not worthy of being a deal breaker or maker.
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« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2012, 02:41:24 PM »

If the 950 was the equal of a 590 there would be no new 3000 but there is because the 950 is a lessor rig than 590.
 

Based on what? Opinion?  I do not think Sherwood listed the 950. As
The least,  not the last time I looked.

BTW,  $200 might not be anything to you. But it may be a deal killer for some.  The USB thing is not worthy of being a deal breaker or maker.

I have played with both and 590 has a cleaner receiver. As far as 200 not being a big deal on a 400 dollar vs 600 dollar rig it is a big difference but on a 1600 dollar rig 200 is not a big jump. Also on USB if you want to use a rig that uses old I/O technology have at it but the USB on 590 makes it plug and play for digi work as rig control and audio can all go out USB cable.  590 is hottest selling rig in its class and it is for a reason. 950 is being replaced for a reason too.
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« Reply #21 on: July 27, 2012, 03:59:18 PM »

That's fair ,  as I only have the 950. I do not know if it being replaced,  as they are using new edsp. Still don't think usb is a big deal. BTW, price is closer to $100. 590 looks like it went down,  and 950 went up.
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« Reply #22 on: July 27, 2012, 03:59:27 PM »

To N7BBC: Buying the 2000 new would be like buying an auto that had been in production for several years at the end of its run right before a completely new model was available. It is a fine radio from its time period but is dated now.
The 950 has been out only a couple of years or so and comes ready to use so to speak with a tuner, and some filters as standard. It does have 6 meters but I doubt if it would get much use compared to the hf bands. The 590 cost about 200 bucks more at Giga Parts but both have free shipping. So that might sway you toward the 950 Yaesu, might not.
My suggestion would be the 590 Kenwood so I suggest you look over any available reviews on it before deciding on a rig.
The 950 has no reviews on ehamnet that I could find, so you might want to check out the Yahoo Group here. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FT-950/.
I would advise you not to buy a new 2000 for the reason I stated as well as those others wrote which may warrant your attention.
Good luck and if you hear me on with your new rig say hello. I operate 5 bands HF with a hex beam, an Ameritron AL 80A,
and Icom 7200. I run an AL 811 and old Ten Tech Corsair 2 on 40 meters with a half square for a total of 6 bands.
Welcome back and have fun.

Frank
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« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2012, 05:04:24 PM »

That's fair ,  as I only have the 950. I do not know if it being replaced,  as they are using new edsp. Still don't think usb is a big deal. BTW, price is closer to $100. 590 looks like it went down,  and 950 went up.

IIRC the differential between the two is at $120 from Texas Towers, and that's less than a 10% spread. For something that should be a once a decade purchase I tend to get what I want and if it's a few dollars more then so be it. Given the life expectancy and anticipated usage I'll get my nickel back and then some. As for the USB port on the TS-590...... Hell Yes! That opens up all sorts of possibilities for computer assist and the U in USB is for "Universal".

USB makes the rig plug & play with damn near every computer built in the last 15 years or so and there's nothing wrong with that.    Wink
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« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2012, 05:07:59 PM »

I saw the TS-2000's name bandieded about, thought I would throw my $.02 in.  I have played with a couple of TS-2000's and I like em, I own a Kenwood TS-480HX, which is a 200 watt radio.  For a couple hundred less, a new TS-480HX is about $1K,  the cash you save with buying either rig, you could still buy a decent used A3S, coax and rotator.  Then, you have a 200 watt rig, no VHF/UHF, but there still is 6 meters, and you can always do VHF on 10 and 6 meters.  Just a thought, I wouldn't mind having a good used TS-2000, just to have one.  I also have a couple of friends who have the FT-950..they love their rigs too, I've had several Yaesu, Kenwood rigs on my desk, can't say as there isn't much difference in the basic overall operation..you turn it on, you spin the dial, push the button and talk.  Some look a little nicer, some sound better than others, but when it all boils down, all you're gonna do is talk on it.  Depends on how much you want to spend..Oh..a good external speaker works wonders, as does a good pair of headphones.

73 de Mark
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« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2012, 08:43:49 AM »

If you are going to buy a HF only radio, forget the FT950 and get the TS590. Both from receiver performance and more importantly, usabillity point of view, it runs rings around the FT950. Also it has a USB port so you can do data,CAT control and firmware updates over USB.

Get the TS-590...the rx is excellent, much better than either rig you are considering. I had both an IC-7600 and the 590 and kept the 590.

Don KF7DS
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« Reply #26 on: July 30, 2012, 08:23:14 PM »

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The 950 has no reviews on ehamnet that I could find...


Actually, it does.

   http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/8031
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« Reply #27 on: July 30, 2012, 08:27:28 PM »

my bad sorry I somehow missed them.

Frank
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« Reply #28 on: July 31, 2012, 11:05:50 AM »

If I were in that situation I would opt for the Kenwood TS590.  You can't go wrong for the price.
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« Reply #29 on: August 01, 2012, 04:59:49 AM »

If you are going to buy a HF only radio, forget the FT950 and get the TS590. Both from receiver performance and more importantly, usabillity point of view, it runs rings around the FT950. Also it has a USB port so you can do data,CAT control and firmware updates over USB.

I have not played with the 590, but I can tell you this. It is $200 more than the 950.
And worth it.
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Secondly, not sure what the big deal is with USB. The 950 has a serial port, and I use a $25 USB-serial adapter to do rig control with HRD, as well as firmware updates.
So there's $25 of the $200 difference. And if you want to use more than one program with the radio simultaneously which requires access to the COM port you can't without spending more money.

Want to do digital modes? Get out the cheque book again for an interface. The TS590 does audio over USB installing it as a separate soundcard so you don't have to tie up the soundcard in your computer for digital modes.

Buy your FT950. Just don't complain when you find you can't see the top half of the display when you're stood up looking down at it nor that you can't see the display at all in bright light nor that to change power settings requires several key presses and diving into the 200 entry menu with its cryptic labelling. Oh and don't complain when you find that the inbuilt ATU won't match your G5RV because it is very narrow in what it'll tune.

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