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Author Topic: New York Callsign from the 1950s and earlier  (Read 2033 times)
NS8Q
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« on: September 10, 2012, 09:24:53 PM »

My wife has her great-grandfathers call sign from at least 1950.  Her mom remembers hearing him on the radio in the early 50s as a child and chances are he was licensed long before that.  His call sign was WA2NVK.  Does anyone have call books from that far back?  We are trying to pin-point when he was first licensed.

Thanks,
Chris NS8Q
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K2OWK
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« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2012, 10:39:59 PM »

The first of this type was the "W" followed by "K" followed by "WA". The call I have was issued to me in 1954. The first call I had was KN2OWK (novice). When I was issued a general license the "N" was drop-ed. I would say the "WA" call was most likely issued in the mid 1050s.

Hope this helps.

73s

K2OWK
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K7KBN
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« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2012, 10:47:23 PM »

The first of this type was the "W" followed by "K" followed by "WA". The call I have was issued to me in 1954. The first call I had was KN2OWK (novice). When I was issued a general license the "N" was drop-ed. I would say the "WA" call was most likely issued in the mid 1050s.

Hope this helps.

73s

K2OWK

Mid-1050s!  That would have been about the time that "Viking" transmitters were introduced...?
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WA2ONH
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« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2012, 07:05:45 AM »

 His call sign was WA2NVK.  

Well, as a point of info, my Novice ticket (WV2ONH) was issued August 1960 which became WA2ONH a year later. For the WA2NVK callsign, I would guess late 1958-1959's.

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« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2012, 11:37:47 PM »

Well, I'm not going to be able to answer your question directly because of the gaps in the coverage of my old callbooks but I do have the 1957, 1958 and 1959 books, then, the next one I have is 1967.  There are NO WA2Nxx calls listed in the books from 1957 through 1959 so his call must have been issued a while after that.  The listing in the 1967 callbook is:
WA2NVK   T (technician)  SAMUEL L. PRICE, 9 Eastland Av., Vestal, NY.  By then, the WBs were already being issued so that tells me that the WA2 was some time before 1967, but how long, I can't guess.  In California, where I was at the time, the WBs began to be issued about 1960 as I got my call, WB6Dxx in 1962.  The ham population on the two coasts is fairly similar so I would guess that the WB2s began about that time as well.
Sorry I can't be more specific that this but, at least this should get you in the ballpark.
Tom
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N2EY
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« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2012, 02:55:05 PM »

As others have noted, WA2NVK dates from the late 1950s or so. Say 1959.

But he may have been licensed much earlier. Here's why:

Before the about 1977 (not sure of the exact date but it was around then), FCC rules required that one's callsign match the location of the station. Hams who moved across call district lines would be issued new callsigns that matched the new district.

Sometimes the FCC could find a "matching" callsign, or at least one that was the same "format". But in many cases they couldn't, because the call districts had widely varying populations. (2 and 6 were the most populous, 7 the least).

So if he moved to 2-land from another district, he'd have to give up his old call and get a 2-land call. In those days most hams couldn't get a "vanity" call; you usually got whatever FCC decided you'd get.

IOW, he may have been licensed much earlier than 1959, but had a 1959-vintage call because of a move to 2-land.

73 de Jim, N2EY
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« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2012, 01:25:11 AM »

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IOW, he may have been licensed much earlier than 1959, but had a 1959-vintage call because of a move to 2-land.

As I read the OP, the inquiry was about the call WA2NVK so that is what I looked for.  If further information is desired, Pete, NL7XM, presently described in the "Product Reviews" would be the person to ask.  I supplied the information asked as I interpreted it.
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WB6DGN
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« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2012, 10:02:01 PM »

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As others have noted, WA2NVK dates from the late 1950s or so. Say 1959.

                                                                NO!

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There are NO WA2Nxx calls listed in the books from 1957 through 1959 so his call must have been issued a while after that.

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« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2012, 10:57:50 AM »

You might try contacting Steve, W3HF.  He has a good collection of callbooks and has helped me in the past.  Also, the Quarter Century Wireless Association (QCWA) will help members track down call signs.

Keep in mind that most any Callbook research will only get you the calendar quarter of a specific year when a call sign was first published (Winter, Spring, Summer, Fall editions).  That means if it first appeared in a Fall, 1961 Callbook, it could have been issued anytime prior to the books publication.  So you can guess the date within a few months if you find the first Callbook that it appears in.  Good luck with your search.

73 de Terry, WØFM
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N2EY
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« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2012, 11:51:07 AM »

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As others have noted, WA2NVK dates from the late 1950s or so. Say 1959.

                                                                NO!

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There are NO WA2Nxx calls listed in the books from 1957 through 1959 so his call must have been issued a while after that.



The Callbooks were printed at the beginning of the year.

73 de Jim, N2EY
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« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2012, 01:18:11 PM »

Jim,

Are you saying that even though the old Flying Horse Callbooks said "Spring 1963" or "Winter 1964" on the cover they were really only printed at the beginning of each year and sectioned into "seasons" by the new license data available for that year? 

Terry, WØFM 
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N2EY
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« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2012, 05:19:44 PM »

Jim,

Are you saying that even though the old Flying Horse Callbooks said "Spring 1963" or "Winter 1964" on the cover they were really only printed at the beginning of each year and sectioned into "seasons" by the new license data available for that year?

No, I mean that they were printed before the season marked. A "winter" 1959 was printed very early in the year, while a "Fall" 1959 was printed in late summer.

Remember that in those days neither the database nor the printing was computerized so it was quite a job to print such a book. By the late 1950s there were over 200,000 US hams.

In any event it's quite possible that my estimate of 1959 is too early.

73 de Jim, N2EY
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W7HBP
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« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2012, 03:13:43 PM »

My wife has her great-grandfathers call sign from at least 1950...

That is cool, keeping the heritage alive. I obtained my late grandfathers call, he was licensed sometime between 1938-1940 era went SK in 1992. Its been issued to only 2 people, him, and myself.
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