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Author Topic: Thoughts on the Flex-Radio Flex-6000 Series  (Read 23603 times)
K9IUQ
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« Reply #30 on: September 16, 2012, 10:35:02 AM »

Ooooh Stan,
You are such a virile man! So strong, so capable....
You are my hero!!!!

It must be my Knobs....

Stan K9IUQ
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AB1KC
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« Reply #31 on: September 16, 2012, 10:40:26 AM »

Ooooh Stan,
You are such a virile man! So strong, so capable....
You are my hero!!!!

It must be my Knobs....

Stan K9IUQ

And here I am with just a little mouse..... Sad
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KE5JPP
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« Reply #32 on: September 16, 2012, 10:53:52 AM »

The radios new capabilities will allow it to do things I can not even begin to understand yet. That is just icing on the cake!

LOL!  What a great reason to buy one!  You don't even know what you can do with it yet.  But, of course, no one else knows either since Flex has yet to demonstrate a working unit.
 
Gene
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« Reply #33 on: September 16, 2012, 11:14:27 AM »

The radios new capabilities will allow it to do things I can not even begin to understand yet. That is just icing on the cake!

LOL!  What a great reason to buy one!  You don't even know what you can do with it yet.  But, of course, no one else knows either since Flex has yet to demonstrate a working unit.
 
Gene


There are only two companies that let you try a radio and return it if you do not like it, TenTec and Flex. If it does not live up to my expectations I can return it. There is no other way to figure out exactly what any radio will do unless you try it other than rely on internet reviews. Then you are subject to the hack jobs like Gene here who takes his lessons on quoting from the nightly news. Ill stick with what has worked for me.
Gene, you never answered my question from this morning, are there any other companies that you really hate? I would love to try their products.....
Bruce
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K9ZW
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« Reply #34 on: September 16, 2012, 03:00:29 PM »

Just finished a nine-part series on my personal take of the new Flex-6000 Series, the up & downsides, impact of the technology, and my predictions:


Flex-6000 Series – Newsletters, Armchair Speculators and My Impressions
http://k9zw.wordpress.com/2012/08/24/flex-6000-series-newsletters-armchair-speculators-and-my-impressions/
.......
Flex-6700 Fantasies – “Dreaming What Might Be!” Series – Deep (and Total) Impact – Predictions
http://k9zw.wordpress.com/2012/09/13/flex-6700-fantasies-dreaming-what-might-be-series-deep-and-total-impact-predictions/

Off to the W9DXCC this weekend, where I hope to listen more to what Flex-Radio has to say about this paradigm shift radio series.

73

Steve
K9ZW

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Excellent W9DXCC!  Very educational SDR & Flex presentation. 

Will have a follow up post on my blog later this week. 

Very - VERY - pleased to be in early on these advances.  This is going to be FUN!

73

Steve
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K9IUQ
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« Reply #35 on: September 16, 2012, 04:49:20 PM »

The radios new capabilities will allow it to do things I can not even begin to understand yet.
Bruce
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If I was you I would be hoping the new 6000 series Flexradios can do the simple things. Like work CW with a paddle, or allow one to have a SSB conversation without motorboating, or the ability to xmit without having spurs, or the ability to reject RF from getting into the radio, or the ability to not have the computer freeze ruining a QSO, etc etc etc.  Wink

What good are new capabilities if it cannot do the simple basic stuff that any knobbed radio can do?

Stan K9IUQ
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« Reply #36 on: September 16, 2012, 05:26:02 PM »

The radios new capabilities will allow it to do things I can not even begin to understand yet.
Bruce
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If I was you I would be hoping the new 6000 series Flexradios can do the simple things. Like work CW with a paddle, or allow one to have a SSB conversation without motorboating, or the ability to xmit without having spurs, or the ability to reject RF from getting into the radio, or the ability to not have the computer freeze ruining a QSO, etc etc etc.  Wink

What good are new capabilities if it cannot do the simple basic stuff that any knobbed radio can do?

Stan K9IUQ

I can do all of that with my Flex 5000 now........
I know you had your issues but I really do not.
Bruce
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KE5JPP
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« Reply #37 on: September 17, 2012, 02:52:29 AM »

The radios new capabilities will allow it to do things I can not even begin to understand yet. That is just icing on the cake!

LOL!  What a great reason to buy one!  You don't even know what you can do with it yet.  But, of course, no one else knows either since Flex has yet to demonstrate a working unit.
 
Gene


There are only two companies that let you try a radio and return it if you do not like it, TenTec and Flex. If it does not live up to my expectations I can return it. There is no other way to figure out exactly what any radio will do unless you try it other than rely on internet reviews. Then you are subject to the hack jobs like Gene here who takes his lessons on quoting from the nightly news. Ill stick with what has worked for me.
Gene, you never answered my question from this morning, are there any other companies that you really hate? I would love to try their products.....
Bruce
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I don't 'hate' any product or manufacturer.  I am sorry that you are too developmentally challenged to understand that.

Gene
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K9ZW
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« Reply #38 on: September 18, 2012, 03:24:53 AM »

Just finished a nine-part series on my personal take of the new Flex-6000 Series, the up & downsides, impact of the technology, and my predictions:


Flex-6000 Series – Newsletters, Armchair Speculators and My Impressions
http://k9zw.wordpress.com/2012/08/24/flex-6000-series-newsletters-armchair-speculators-and-my-impressions/

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Flex-6700 Fantasies – “Dreaming What Might Be!” Series – Deep (and Total) Impact – Predictions
http://k9zw.wordpress.com/2012/09/13/flex-6700-fantasies-dreaming-what-might-be-series-deep-and-total-impact-predictions/

Off to the W9DXCC this weekend, where I hope to listen more to what Flex-Radio has to say about this paradigm shift radio series.

73

Steve
K9ZW

BLOG:  With Varying Frequency http://k9zw.wordpress.com/


I've posted my post W9DXCC Updated Predictions are up at:

Flex-6700 Fantasies – “Dreaming What Might Be!” Series – Lessons Learned and Series Wrap Up   
http://k9zw.wordpress.com/2012/09/18/flex-6700-fantasies-dreaming-what-might-be-series-lessons-learned-and-series-wrap-up/

73

Steve
K9ZW

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« Reply #39 on: September 18, 2012, 03:41:56 AM »

Just finished a nine-part series on my personal take of the new Flex-6000 Series, the up & downsides, impact of the technology, and my predictions:


Flex-6000 Series – Newsletters, Armchair Speculators and My Impressions
http://k9zw.wordpress.com/2012/08/24/flex-6000-series-newsletters-armchair-speculators-and-my-impressions/

......


Flex-6700 Fantasies – “Dreaming What Might Be!” Series – Deep (and Total) Impact – Predictions
http://k9zw.wordpress.com/2012/09/13/flex-6700-fantasies-dreaming-what-might-be-series-deep-and-total-impact-predictions/

Off to the W9DXCC this weekend, where I hope to listen more to what Flex-Radio has to say about this paradigm shift radio series.

73

Steve
K9ZW

BLOG:  With Varying Frequency http://k9zw.wordpress.com/


I've posted my post W9DXCC Updated Predictions are up at:

Flex-6700 Fantasies – “Dreaming What Might Be!” Series – Lessons Learned and Series Wrap Up   
http://k9zw.wordpress.com/2012/09/18/flex-6700-fantasies-dreaming-what-might-be-series-lessons-learned-and-series-wrap-up/

73

Steve
K9ZW

BLOG:  With Varying Frequency http://k9zw.wordpress.com/

Why waste all this time and effort?  Why not wait until the Flex-6000 series hits the streets and we have concrete evidence of how much of a 'game changer' it really is, instead of silly speculation and wishes?   Roll Eyes

Gene
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K9IUQ
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« Reply #40 on: September 18, 2012, 04:13:46 AM »


Flex-6700 Fantasies – “Dreaming What Might Be!


Really that says it all. Dreaming and Promises all at a huge down payment Co$t...
To be delivered later.  Wink

Stan K9IUQ  
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KX0O
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« Reply #41 on: September 18, 2012, 04:15:13 AM »

True and false.   The qs1r and studio 1 can run multiple receivers but they have to be within the tuned bandwidth which if I recall is 2 MHz.  The stock fpga code isnt capable of multiple receivers on multiple bands.  There may be some way to use cw skimmer server fpga code in conjunction with studio 1 but this would take some serious fiddling and may or may or work.

Soo... If you want to monitor 8 bands simultaneously, or 8 signals separated by more than 2MHz you don't have many options.  The USRP, hpsdr stuff and the flex-6700.  The 6700 will be the first off the shelf receiver with this capability that I am aware of. You would need 8 qs1r's to monitor 8 bands.  I have one and it is neat.  It just won't do what I want to do. At least or easily...but I am still fiddling to get as much out of it as possible.

If anyone knows how to spread out the virtual receivers on the qs1r please let me know.

Doc
KX0O


I think Gene has had it right about the QS1R.  

From what I can see, with a QS1R and Studio 1 you could run multiple virtual receivers already today with it and let's just say you bundle a 100 watt amp with it, your around $2000 verses $7500.  Apples to apples, maybe not but..

That's a lot of jack left over!


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« Reply #42 on: September 18, 2012, 04:21:52 AM »

Soo... If you want to monitor 8 bands simultaneously, or 8 signals separated by more than 2MHz you don't have many options.  

So what . Who really needs 8 bands at once? What ham really wants to pay extra $$$$ to have that 8 bands?

The 6000 series is a solution looking for a problem.

Stan K9IUQ
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KX0O
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« Reply #43 on: September 18, 2012, 04:38:31 AM »

Stan,

So now it will have too many capabilities.  Ok...so nobody should make anything that exceeds Stan's ability to comprehend a use for it?  A lot of people want to look at 8 bands at once.  I am sure you can come up with some reasons.  Beacons, psk, cw, ssb on multiple bands simultaneously would come in handy for a lot of people.  Not everybody camps out and chit chats..  There are a bunch of hams that do very technical things with these receivers.  Ionospheric monitoring, frequency measuring, very long baseline interferometry etc etc etc.

Let us spend our money and do our thing, you are free to do the same.  You like your horse and buggy, flip phone and windows ME..fine.  Many others are trying to make advances and are keeping their brains moving forward.

The 6700 is not over priced... It's capabilities cannot be had for any price right now.  They can be cobbled together but will cost more and will result it numerous cables, software and will not have native network connectivity.

Doc
KX0O

Soo... If you want to monitor 8 bands simultaneously, or 8 signals separated by more than 2MHz you don't have many options.  

So what . Who really needs 8 bands at once? What ham really wants to pay extra $$$$ to have that 8 bands?

The 6000 series is a solution looking for a problem.

Stan K9IUQ
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K9IUQ
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« Reply #44 on: September 18, 2012, 04:48:51 AM »

 You like your horse and buggy, flip phone and windows ME..fine
Doc
KX0O

Why oh why do Flexers also find a need to attack me personally?

I drive a brand new 2012 car with all the latest technology goodies including voice control, have a smart phone and run Win 7. What else would you like to know?

Stan K9IUQ
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