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Author Topic: Islands Under Threat of Being Submerged  (Read 5909 times)
KY6R
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« on: September 13, 2012, 08:48:18 AM »

Here is an interesting link to islands that could be submerged one day:

http://www.eorc.jaxa.jp/en/imgdata/topics/2010/tp100804.html

I am a sea kayaker and kayak in the Oakland shipping channel, China Camp, Sausalito, the San Francisco Bay and Pt. Reyes, and I have worked near the Berkeley and San Francisco waterfronts - so this video is of big interest to me:

http://science.kqed.org/quest/video/going-up-sea-level-rise-in-san-francisco-bay/

They said the SF Bay has risen 8 inches in the last century. They also say they have no idea how much and how fast the bay could rise, so we shall see.

And yes, it is also possible that things could stop or reverse, but when I see that people are being evacuated from some of the OC islands to New Zealand and Australia, then I realize its a serious issue - more so than just a entity being deleted one day. I didn't realize that water is literally popping up out of holes in the ground and flooding places like Tuvalu. That's pretty amazing. The Maldives have also been completely flooded.

Time will tell what happens.
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« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2012, 09:04:44 AM »

Can they do an underwater DXpedition?
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« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2012, 09:07:04 AM »

Can they do an underwater DXpedition?

If you lobby the ARRL DXCC Desk and ask them, I am sure they will consider your request  Grin
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« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2012, 09:18:24 AM »

Can they do an underwater DXpedition?

Probably won't count for DXCC. You have to wait for the next time they're above water and you can build some scaffolding on it.
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« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2012, 09:57:20 AM »

Can they do an underwater DXpedition?

Probably won't count for DXCC. You have to wait for the next time they're above water and you can build some scaffolding on it.

Wait. Are you saying that Atlantis is not an ARRL entity?
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« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2012, 10:01:21 AM »

Can they do an underwater DXpedition?

Probably won't count for DXCC. You have to wait for the next time they're above water and you can build some scaffolding on it.

Wait. Are you saying that Atlantis is not an ARRL entity?

Dang - and I worked F1SHY from Atlantis just last week . . . .
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« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2012, 10:07:18 AM »

Several countries have made plans to move their populations to other places. In the Indian Ocean I think S7 and 8Q governments are planning ahead. And of course there are others in OC besides T2 - I'm not sure which. I think T2 has made arrangements with New Zealand  - I may be wrong about that. It seems I read about some OC countries planning ahead with ZL.

It sounds like Conway Reef (according to N6PSE), although uninhabited, days are numbered. I have several 3D2/C QSLs, even ones with pictures of vegetation.
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« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2012, 12:08:20 PM »

Here is an interesting link to islands that could be submerged one day:

http://www.eorc.jaxa.jp/en/imgdata/topics/2010/tp100804.html

I am a sea kayaker and kayak in the Oakland shipping channel, China Camp, Sausalito, the San Francisco Bay and Pt. Reyes, and I have worked near the Berkeley and San Francisco waterfronts - so this video is of big interest to me:

http://science.kqed.org/quest/video/going-up-sea-level-rise-in-san-francisco-bay/

They said the SF Bay has risen 8 inches in the last century. They also say they have no idea how much and how fast the bay could rise, so we shall see.

And yes, it is also possible that things could stop or reverse, but when I see that people are being evacuated from some of the OC islands to New Zealand and Australia, then I realize its a serious issue - more so than just a entity being deleted one day. I didn't realize that water is literally popping up out of holes in the ground and flooding places like Tuvalu. That's pretty amazing. The Maldives have also been completely flooded.

Time will tell what happens.

Due to plate tectonics, the SF area lies on the Pacific Plate and the Oakland area on the North American plate.  the Pacific plate is moving in the N-NW direction at about 6 inches per year where the NA plate is basically not moving.  The movement results in rifting which created the SF bay and as the Pacific plate continues to move, the rift will get larger hence the SF bay is getting larger and deeper.  As islands sink, new ones are being created underwater (Loihi seamount Southeast of the Big Island of Hawaii) or above sea level such as the Big Island of Hawaii.  That's geology 101 in a nut roll (still can't believe I graduated college).

73, Delwyn KH6DC
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« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2012, 12:20:49 PM »

That's geology 101 in a nut roll (still can't believe I graduated college).

73, Delwyn KH6DC

Why not?  You seem like a very smart guy. Today's college degree has been watered down so much that today's college degree is probably not very different from a HS diploma from a very good HS a half century ago.

73,

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« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2012, 02:23:10 PM »

Today's college degree has been watered down so much that today's college degree is probably not very different from a HS diploma from a very good HS a half century ago.

A rather broad statement. References, please.
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« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2012, 03:37:53 PM »

Today's college degree has been watered down so much that today's college degree is PROBABLY not very different from a HS diploma from a very good HS a half century ago.

A rather broad statement. References, please.

Don't think he say it was so .... it appears by stating "probably", he stating an opinion. And everyone has one of those. They're FREE.
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« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2012, 03:44:54 PM »

Today's college degree has been watered down so much that today's college degree is PROBABLY not very different from a HS diploma from a very good HS a half century ago.

A rather broad statement. References, please.

Don't think he say it was so .... it appears by stating "probably", he stating an opinion. And everyone has one of those. They're FREE.

You get what you pay for.
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« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2012, 07:03:30 PM »

Better call Al Gore!.... Roll Eyes Shocked....
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NU1O
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« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2012, 11:12:13 PM »

Don't think he say it was so .... it appears by stating "probably", he stating an opinion. And everyone has one of those. They're FREE.

Thank You, Landon.  It is obviously an opinion as I was not in college 50 years ago.  I do follow the news closely and I have family in academia.  I've been reading more and more stories about high schools where teachers hand out the answers to tests because they know most of their students are too dumb to pass a test.  This was unheard of when I was in school but not so unheard of today. Many of those HS students are admitted to colleges where they do not belong.

They just had a scandal in Atlanta, where they were caught giving the test answers to the students prior to the tests, and their rationale was the kids are so stupid they had no other choice. They did have another choice.  They could have let 90% of the students fail but the jobs of the administrators might have been in jeopardy. We recently had a local cheating scandal in the city of Springfield so these are not rare events.

I have a close relative who is an attorney and has taught criminal justice and a few other classes part time at local colleges.  My relative graduated summa cum laude from a prestigious Boston college and his opinion is many of the students in his classes should not have graduated from high school, let alone be in college. He gives them the grades they deserve because he enjoys teaching and his part-time teaching is not responsible for his whole salary like a full-time teacher.

Doesn't it stand to reason that if our high school school administrators are passing students who should've failed that some/many will be admitted to college and they must be passing students along just like the high schools?  Maybe not the elite schools like Harvard or MIT but community colleges and colleges with low or average rankings?

73,

Chris/NU1O
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« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2012, 11:14:22 PM »


They said the SF Bay has risen 8 inches in the last century. They also say they have no idea how much and how fast the bay could rise, so we shall see.

It's too bad SF wasn't sinking. That's one city we could do without!   Grin

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