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Author Topic: Best time for China?  (Read 4286 times)
VA2FSQ
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« on: October 03, 2012, 06:49:25 PM »

Can anyone give me some hints on working China from Montreal?  I have seen them spotted but I never hear a peep.
In the past, this forum has given me many good hints on working new areas of the world.  As in the past with Australia, Japan, Thailand etc, all I needed was to know when, and then I eventually snagged them.. China has remained elusive though.
Thanks for any hints.
Tom
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« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2012, 07:56:06 PM »

If you haven't tried it already contesting is a great opportunity to add new ones.  I use the attached link for up-to-date info.  GL.

http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/contestcal.html

73,
Jonathan W6GX
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« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2012, 08:54:12 PM »

I've been in number of contest but still never heard china.In the contests, thev've been buried under the loud guns but  also I probably have not been listening at the right time.
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« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2012, 09:04:32 PM »

I've been in number of contest but still never heard china.In the contests, thev've been buried under the loud guns but  also I probably have not been listening at the right time.

Mid-morning or late afternoon on 20 and from 5:30 to about 7 or 8pm on 17 and 15m (from NJ). Probably similar in Montreal. In CQWW start looking after dark on 20, but the pileups will be intense...even I have trouble with my station in the contests--but I do inevitably get Zone 24 in the log. If you had directionality I'd say long-path after dawn should rock.
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« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2012, 11:33:00 PM »

Almost all of my contacts with China have been between 13 to 14 UTC and 23 to 24 UTC.  I worked Tibet the other day on 20 CW @ 20:28 UTC but Tibet is a rarity and a good distance West from most of the active Chinese stations which are predominantly in Southern and South Eastern China. Those coastal areas are China's most prosperous regions.

I am in MA so propagation should be very close to yours.


73,

Chris/NU1O

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« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2012, 02:41:38 AM »

I've been in number of contest but still never heard china.In the contests, thev've been buried under the loud guns but  also I probably have not been listening at the right time.

Over here in EU, it's a different story, with the BY contest stations often having huge signals but quite often very hard to get back to, maybe huge power on their part, but also their noise levels maybe very high...  I shudder to think of the electrical noise on the HF spectrum in their large cities.
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« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2012, 07:27:13 PM »

I think i have only heard China twice on 20 meters about 3 years ago and it was around 5-6 pm montreal time.

Never was able to work them usually because of huge pileups though.
 
You probably have to be very patient and wait to catch someone before the big pileups begin. kind of like being at the right place at the right time.

I am still waiting to listen to a VUland station. Never heard one. Never mind working one up.


Good luck in your quest for a QSO and 73 de VE2ITZ a Deux Montagnes!



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« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2012, 07:34:38 PM »

i have a small station too here in MD, not too far south of Montreal. With 100 watts and dipole:

April 17 at 0200 on 15M in 2012
April 8 0100 on 15M in 2011
April 17 0200 on 15 in 2011
April 18 0130 BV, (not BY) 15M in 2011

That't it for me and China in the past two years. Notice a pattern?

Good luck, it is about the hardest DX we can work.

paul

ps for VU my QSO was Jan 1 at 1500Z on 15M
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NU1O
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« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2012, 09:51:04 PM »

i have a small station too here in MD, not too far south of Montreal. With 100 watts and dipole:

April 17 at 0200 on 15M in 2012
April 8 0100 on 15M in 2011
April 17 0200 on 15 in 2011
April 18 0130 BV, (not BY) 15M in 2011

That't it for me and China in the past two years. Notice a pattern?

Good luck, it is about the hardest DX we can work.

paul

ps for VU my QSO was Jan 1 at 1500Z on 15M

Your doing pretty good with that dipole, Paul.

My 15 meter China catches in the evening all fall between 00:00 UTC to 02:00 UTC.  Yes, there is a definite pattern.  I only have one morning QSO on 15 meters and that was at 13:39 UTC.  On 10 meters there was about one week of long path openings back in December from the 12th through the 17th.  Times were 13:00 to 13:46 UTC.  In the evening on 10 meters from 23:00 to 01:00 UTC.

73,

Chris/NU1O
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« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2012, 05:57:43 AM »

I have a high wire antenna, no beam, on east coast, 100W, and do struggle to get anything on a pure-polar path.

When it does happen, it is often mid-morning local time on 10/15/20, and I am just barely pulling them out of the noise. Usually if I can hear them, I can work them. I think this means that the guy on the other end needs a kick-ass beam!

I have also found some early evening openings on the same bands, which tend to be much louder and more clear. But less often.

I have less than a dozen China QSO's in the past year, mostly last fall and this fall when sunspots were nice. Some in the spring and summer this year too.

I think if some of the western provinces are activated this weekend that I have a better chance at them... unless there's any competition. Will see how it works out!!!
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VA2FSQ
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« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2012, 07:48:15 AM »

Thanks for all of the hints.  Now I have to leave it up to the propagation gods.  I'm optimistic though, everytime I couldn't get a particular zone, the help here has let me land the station so I'll keep at it.
VE2ITZ, I do have a VU and I can check my logs to see when I got it.  I seem to recall it was pretty easy.

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« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2012, 08:00:00 AM »

I don't have China either, but I did work HL2DC yesterday at about 2315 on 15m.

I turned on the rig to see if I could hear the TT8TT guys, they were barely a whisper so I went for a spin on 15 meters, which is becoming my favorite band. There he was, an honest 549 or so.

I checked and the path from here and it is slightly polar, but not right over the pole like China is. The Azimuth to South Korea from here (VA) is about the same as extreme eastern China.

Give 15 a spin in the late afternoon.
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« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2012, 08:48:26 AM »

http://www.mulandxc.org/?page_id=2

The first Chinese province contest--could be a very good opportunity, as China covers a wide geographical area but most of the normal activity is crowded into the cities.
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NU1O
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« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2012, 03:06:58 PM »

I don't have China either, but I did work HL2DC yesterday at about 2315 on 15m.


If you can work South Korea you can work China. You very may well work one during this week's contest.

Good luck and 73,

Chris/NU1O
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VA2FSQ
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« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2012, 03:23:44 PM »

So where are they????Its the contest today, no spots, and no signals???
Tried at 5-7Z and now at 6:30PM EST, there's no activity at all.
So much for that contest.
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