Call Search
     

New to Ham Radio?
My Profile

Community
Articles
Forums
News
Reviews
Friends Remembered
Strays
Survey Question

Operating
Contesting
DX Cluster Spots
Propagation

Resources
Calendar
Classifieds
Ham Exams
Ham Links
List Archives
News Articles
Product Reviews
QSL Managers

Site Info
eHam Help (FAQ)
Support the site
The eHam Team
Advertising Info
Vision Statement
About eHam.net

   Home   Help Search  
Pages: Prev 1 ... 4 5 6 7 8 [9] 10 11 Next   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: Is the KX3 all it's cracked up to be or fake?  (Read 78283 times)
AD6KA
Member

Posts: 2232




Ignore
« Reply #120 on: March 09, 2013, 08:17:22 AM »

While it sounds like the KX-3 is really an outstanding
radio, for the newcomers remember that you don't need
to spend a kilobuck ($1k) to have fun with QRP.

There are a lot of really great kit QRP monoband kit rigs for
SSB, CW and digimodes for $150 and down even to $30 for
the Small Wonder Labs Rockmite. (If you don't mind
being rockbound).
http://smallwonderlabs.com/Rockmite.htm

For 20m SSB the BITX20A is nice,
though they now force you to buy their enclosure.
And LOTS of great mods out there on the Net for it.
http://www.qrpkits.com/bitx20a.html
(Though it is outclassed by the long discontinued
SWL White Mountain 20).

For those with the stones to try 80m QRP SSB, the
MKARS80 by RadioKits.UK is a terrific value and
another fun build, and comes with a digital frequency
display, usually an extra $ option on most kit rigs.
http://www.radio-kits.co.uk/

It's too bad that Small Wonder Labs discontinued
their popular PSK Series monoband PSK-31 rigs,
but you can still find used assembled units, and
once in a blue moon an unassembled kit.

If you think making DX QRP contacts with a store bought
rig is cool, wait until you do it with a $100 rig that
you built yourself! We're having some fun now!  Grin
73, Ken  AD6KA
« Last Edit: March 09, 2013, 08:21:55 AM by AD6KA » Logged
AA4PB
Member

Posts: 12680




Ignore
« Reply #121 on: March 09, 2013, 08:41:03 AM »

I agree. I have more fun using a radio that I built myself, even if it was a kit. I don't really consider the K3 or the KX3 to be "electronic kits" because you only perform the mechanical assembly. No soldering and no building PC boards. If you want a "real" kit then look at the K1 or K2.
Logged
W1JKA
Member

Posts: 1619




Ignore
« Reply #122 on: March 09, 2013, 09:16:22 AM »

  Does the KX3 have any kind of rubber type membrane material behind the switches,button or knob shafts where they penetrate the case for moisture resistance? I ask this because my K-1 doesn't so other than fair weather picnic table portable operation it stays inside at my home QTH.
Logged
AA4PB
Member

Posts: 12680




Ignore
« Reply #123 on: March 09, 2013, 01:59:47 PM »

From what I've seen, I wouldn't think that the KX3 could even be considered "water resistant".
Logged
WA2TPU
Member

Posts: 204




Ignore
« Reply #124 on: March 10, 2013, 09:25:02 AM »

No, I don't believe my KX-3 is a rig you'd take out into a rain or storm storm without it being protected and covered. Its not water or moisture resistant to the best of my knowledge. Yet, its one FINE RADIO.I'm really REALLY enjoying mine.
Best regards and many72/73.
Don sr. --WA2TPU --
Logged
N2RRA
Member

Posts: 646


WWW

Ignore
« Reply #125 on: March 20, 2013, 03:36:08 AM »

I'm really looking forward to getting mine!

A couple of buddies just got theirs and seem to love it. I actually had a QSO with one of them on 20m yesterday and his audio was outstanding. He was running a bit of compression, but just the right amount that would make a difference in a 1 s-unit noise situation. That alone makes a difference since the FT-817ND doesn't have compression.

I've yet to sit in front of one, but I will be using one soon on a SOTA 3 day weekend trip up a peak in New York with a few other hams. We will be sleeping in the bush for those days putting battery life, solar and all its capabilities to the test. More information on that in the next couple days on QRZ.com.

Many are right about not needing a $1500. QRP rig to enjoy. It all the features and gimmicks new'er radios have are luxuries at this point. For decades hams have been running QRP with ancient technology and did the job fine so no one should ever get discouraged. I bet that weekend SOTA trip between the FT-817ND and KX3 I'll still be able to hear and make the same contacts any other of the operators will. Maybe with a bit more noise, but we'll see and compare. You know there'll be a vid on it on my YouTube channel.

At this point I know the KX3 is a superior radio, but still doesn't have 2m and 440. I know that's gonna change, but something's gotta give. We all know that so let's see what their gonna give up for that. For it to be worthy it's gotta be an internal module. I bet if you took the 2m/440 out of the likes of an FT-817 how much better the HF side would be.

Lets see!

73! 
Logged
WA2TPU
Member

Posts: 204




Ignore
« Reply #126 on: March 20, 2013, 01:55:44 PM »

To N2RRA.....
     You know I always look forward to your wonderful videos. I hope you have a good time on whatever peak you're going to in The Land Of Taxes....Good Ole' Upstate NY. I'll be listening for you and hope we can make a contact. Currently, I'm saving for a second KX-3 completely loaded so I can use it as a Rover in the June VHF Contest on 6 meters. I'm that impressed with the KX-3's performance and capabilities. Yup, I still have the Ft-817D but rarely use it now...just on 2 meter FM Simplex and to access a couple local repeaters around here. Once Elecraft comes out with the 2 meter module I will buy one. Then my KX-3 will truly be complete.
     Again, the BEST of fun on your peak -outing this weekend. Hopefully, both the weather and propagation will be decent for you and your fellow peakers.
     Take care....BE WELL...STAY HEALTHY......
       Best regards with many 72,73.
          Don sr. --WA2TPU --
Logged
W7ASA
Member

Posts: 207




Ignore
« Reply #127 on: March 20, 2013, 03:04:23 PM »

For me, I prefer an HF transceiver and a separate 2 meter handi-talkie.  The reason being, that I use the 2 meter for local/area comms and sometimes have it running in camp so that we can keep tabs on the group when members are out and away from camp, but not interupt with HF comms.  With a single HF through UHF rig, that's can be a bit messy maintaining an HF contact AND a VHF 'watch'.  I also had the 2 meter HT on my pack's shoulder strap while hiking for the occasinoal on-the-go voice comms and/or when the group wanted to split-up onthe trail, but keep in touch.  In short - Ht's are so inexpensive now that I would rather have the utility of both a light weight HF rig and the HT. It's worth the extra pound to me.


Just my two cents (please correct for inflation)


de Ray
W7ASA ..._ ._
Logged
WA2TPU
Member

Posts: 204




Ignore
« Reply #128 on: March 20, 2013, 03:18:10 PM »

To W7ASA --

     Ray,
       I never thought about it in that way...but I must conclude you are indeed correct...plus at the extremely low prices you can buy a 2 meter hand-held in today's market...well.....it sure makes sense to me.
        Nice posting Ray.
         Best regards with many 72...73.
            Don sr. --WA2TPU --
Logged
ZENKI
Member

Posts: 906




Ignore
« Reply #129 on: April 05, 2013, 01:11:14 AM »

Every HF radio on the market that has 2 meters built in has lousy HF receiver performance, this is before we start talking about the lousy VHF/UHF performance.

I just read the  RSGB report of the KX3 and the radio got a glowing review. However as expected the transmitter IMD on the higher bands was a lousy -22Dbc.  And as expected most stations
will be feeding this radio into a CB amplifier or some other crummy splatter box which makes the excellent receiver performance a moot point when users of this radio will be polluting  some other hams receiver
causing misery. This is the stupidity of the current receiver performance craze, chasing numbers that have no meaning in the real world. Until we can  make transmitters as good as the receiver performance we wasting out money.


I will be complaining about splattering KX3 users just like I complain about these lousy FT817 and all the operators who use CB amplifiers with this radio. All these stations are inconsiderate LIDS who should
use proper equipment that does not splatter. The KX3 will be in same dirty league as all these other crap transmitter which is a shame since its receiver performance seems to be so good.




To W7ASA --

     Ray,
       I never thought about it in that way...but I must conclude you are indeed correct...plus at the extremely low prices you can buy a 2 meter hand-held in today's market...well.....it sure makes sense to me.
        Nice posting Ray.
         Best regards with many 72...73.
            Don sr. --WA2TPU --
Logged
W1JKA
Member

Posts: 1619




Ignore
« Reply #130 on: April 05, 2013, 04:27:05 AM »

   Other than the comments about using the CB type amplifier on the KX3s SSB,what if any effect have KX3 owners of this type of amp set up experienced on the CW side?Or is the reference to "Splatter" mean both CW and SSB?
Logged
GILGSN
Member

Posts: 199




Ignore
« Reply #131 on: April 05, 2013, 09:47:08 AM »

Quote
And as expected most stations will be feeding this radio into a CB amplifier or some other crummy splatter box

I couldn't imagine someone owning a KX3 doing something like that... Who would spend $1K on a radio and then use it with a cheap CB amp? These people would buy the FT-817. But I might be wrong... I wouldn't use an amp, period. The KX3 is a QRP radio, most of all. If I wanted 100W, I'd use something else.. I don't think the upcoming Elecraft amp for the KX3 will be a splatter box.. Radios do have to meet FCC requirements to be on the market anyway. I am sure both the KX3 and FT-817ND do. As to those who use those bad amps, they are doing so illegally. Yep, inconsiderate... Plenty of those on the air.. (especially on contest week-ends).. ** cough-cough ** Did I say that?...

Gil.
Logged
K6AQ
Member

Posts: 20


WWW

Ignore
« Reply #132 on: April 05, 2013, 10:10:32 AM »

I just read the  RSGB report of the KX3 and the radio got a glowing review. However as expected the transmitter IMD on the higher bands was a lousy -22Dbc.

I'm not sure what power level RSGB's using, but the ARRL measured the KX3's IMD at around -95ish dBm (I don't have the exact number in front of me). Maybe I'm missing something, but that number seems fine to me.
Logged
PJ2BVU
Member

Posts: 112




Ignore
« Reply #133 on: April 05, 2013, 12:41:52 PM »

I'm not sure what power level RSGB's using, but the ARRL measured the KX3's IMD at around -95ish dBm (I don't have the exact number in front of me). Maybe I'm missing something, but that number seems fine to me.
Really?
Logged
K6AQ
Member

Posts: 20


WWW

Ignore
« Reply #134 on: April 05, 2013, 02:10:13 PM »

I'm not sure what power level RSGB's using, but the ARRL measured the KX3's IMD at around -95ish dBm (I don't have the exact number in front of me). Maybe I'm missing something, but that number seems fine to me.
Really?

I misunderstood what dBc was. Too little sleep and all.

That said, ARRL's numbers still seem okay to me. Of course, don't purchase a horrible amplifier, but most people don't get a rig like the KX3 just to plug it into an amplifier.
Logged
Pages: Prev 1 ... 4 5 6 7 8 [9] 10 11 Next   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.11 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines LLC Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!