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Author Topic: ZL9HR-Campbell Is Dxped feedback forum  (Read 25120 times)
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« Reply #60 on: December 02, 2012, 04:10:39 PM »

I am starting to feel like a real loser! Listening as much as possible today, spots ALL OVER the high bands and I have not even HEARD them! They are currently spotted on 17 and 12, not only do I not hear the DX I don't even hear any stations calling them. I know my antenna works, just heard EY8MM on 80 loud as day.

paul

You might need to stay up late - or wake up extra early to try to snag them on 40 or 30M. That would be my recommendation. And pray that they get to stay overnight again!
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« Reply #61 on: December 02, 2012, 04:50:25 PM »

Hey Paul,
 You should put up a tower over there in Potomac  Grin
 I used to live up there in NoVA, so have been around your area.

 Btw, with your 60ft high dipole for 20m/40m, i think your best bet would be
 CW on 20m or 40m followed by SSB on 20m.

 The strongest signal i have heard so far has been 20m SSB in the morning.
 If you wake up early in the morning, say around 4am, you might find a chance,
 but you will probably need all that the AL-811 can offer with the EU in the run.

 Also i am hoping Rich can relay to the team to stop and look for QRP stations,
 barefoot and mobile ones Smiley

 Paul, just to cover the bases, have you switched between the 520/590 & 850 and
 tried?  Try to inline any Rx pre-amp you might have. Just some options.

 Good luck
 Krish
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« Reply #62 on: December 02, 2012, 04:57:37 PM »

Hi Krish,

No tower here, might have to wait till the kids are out of college... in 14 more years.

I don't work SSB, but on 20 CW they were a WHISPER this morning, much louder on 30 and 40. The 850S is boxed up, I am using my TS-590S, +/- pre-amp and trying every antenna/RX antenna I have just to hear them. I'll get up before packing the kids up for school tomorrow at 6am. Just feelin' sorry for myself. I'm tired from the 160 contrest!

paul
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« Reply #63 on: December 02, 2012, 05:26:48 PM »

I am starting to feel like a real loser! Listening as much as possible today, spots ALL OVER the high bands and I have not even HEARD them! They are currently spotted on 17 and 12, not only do I not hear the DX I don't even hear any stations calling them. I know my antenna works, just heard EY8MM on 80 loud as day.

paul


We are in the same boat Paul.

Not a peep here in Western PA.

I have been listening all over the place all day....ZIP-ZILCH-NADA !
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« Reply #64 on: December 02, 2012, 05:35:58 PM »

I'm close to Paul and I've only heard them on 12m CW at around 1900Z. They were workable but I did not jump into the pileup. I only have dipoles.
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« Reply #65 on: December 02, 2012, 05:41:49 PM »

Yes I got stomped on today on 17m cw.......he kept calling for the N1 but the QRM just carried on, with every callsign under the sun calling him without a break.

Can't these ops copy cw or do they just not care?


Mark N1UK

I think a lot of it is codereaders.  Has to be...... Roll Eyes

73, Gene AF3Y
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« Reply #66 on: December 02, 2012, 06:53:05 PM »

Saw ZL9HR spotted on 30m cw.
Went there and listened, and I WAS HEARING THEM !
Not strong, but someone was there.

The KEY WORD is "SOMEONE"

Listened for a while, then he finally ID'ed....7P8D
Seemed kinda early for them to be on 30m.

RATZ !!!!!!

Back to spinning the dial.
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« Reply #67 on: December 02, 2012, 06:59:05 PM »

Yes I got stomped on today on 17m cw.......he kept calling for the N1 but the QRM just carried on, with every callsign under the sun calling him without a break.

Can't these ops copy cw or do they just not care?


Mark N1UK

Hey Mark,

I heard that QSO.  He did the same for me just a few minutes later.

One of my goals with these guys was to work them on as many bands as possible without an amp.  He was having trouble pulling out the last letter of my call and kept asking "K0RH??" and sending KN over and over.  Of course no one stopped calling.  Finally he stopped the whole pileup with "AS AS AS" and asked again for my call.  He finally got it OK.  Wow, I appreciate the willingness to work until they get it right.  This was awesome.  Kudos to the ops.

I've been on the other end of pileups in contests and marvel at the lack of cooperation from callers.  If they understood the least bit about human nature they would see that their continued calling just makes the other operator more determined than ever to get it right.  By continuous calling it only delays QSOs for everyone.  If I ask for "...AB," I'm sure as hell not going to take "...YZ."
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« Reply #68 on: December 02, 2012, 07:00:55 PM »

Saw ZL9HR spotted on 30m cw.

Listened for a while, then he finally ID'ed....7P8D
Seemed kinda early for them to be on 30m.

7P8D was consistanly being misspotted as ZL9HR on 30m today.  Lots of bogus ops out there that can't copy code.
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« Reply #69 on: December 02, 2012, 07:09:08 PM »

Saw ZL9HR spotted on 30m cw.
Went there and listened, and I WAS HEARING THEM !
Not strong, but someone was there.

The KEY WORD is "SOMEONE"

Listened for a while, then he finally ID'ed....7P8D
Seemed kinda early for them to be on 30m.

RATZ !!!!!!

Back to spinning the dial.

Do you have a propagation prediction program such as W6ELProp?  If not, down load it (it's free) and at least run a basic prediction based on your location and the current SFI / K numbers.

You'll get a good starting point as to when and where (what band) to concentrate your efforts.

I always run several propagation predictions which I then compare to the spots on DX Summit and what my own ears and experience tells me.

This way I at least have a starting point for my DX stalk Wink

Gl de harry, W6DXO





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« Reply #70 on: December 02, 2012, 07:10:41 PM »

Well, even now on 160m, the mis-spot happened. Heck, i could work either of them, who ever it is, but Nada here.  Huh

Btw, the code readers are no good under weak signals like these, but come on, what's the point of calling over and over.
My only plausible explanation is that the pile is so large that a majority of them got out of sync and are sending out of turn.

They do it in SSB as well. I just don't get it. They are either using Drones for the calling or have their grandma's vocal chord
implanted to help resonate as a backup. Grin

Oh well. It is like,
Step 1: Remove headphones
Step 2: Stick in the ear plugs
Step 3: Grab the mic or hammer the key
Step 4: Unplug the ear plugs and may be the Dx is calling me  Cheesy

73s
krish
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KB3LIX
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« Reply #71 on: December 02, 2012, 07:38:25 PM »

Saw ZL9HR spotted on 30m cw.
Went there and listened, and I WAS HEARING THEM !
Not strong, but someone was there.

The KEY WORD is "SOMEONE"

Listened for a while, then he finally ID'ed....7P8D
Seemed kinda early for them to be on 30m.

RATZ !!!!!!

Back to spinning the dial.

Do you have a propagation prediction program such as W6ELProp?  If not, down load it (it's free) and at least run a basic prediction based on your location and the current SFI / K numbers.

You'll get a good starting point as to when and where (what band) to concentrate your efforts.

I always run several propagation predictions which I then compare to the spots on DX Summit and what my own ears and experience tells me.

This way I at least have a starting point for my DX stalk Wink

Gl de harry, W6DXO







I have VOA-CAP and ran predictions for my transmit to Auckland
as well as THEIR transmit to NA.
As I said, seemed kinda early for them to be on 30m.
but it was worth a listen.

I hear someone on 14.035 as I am typing. but it is only a whisper.
I can only pull out a character or two here and there.
Not NEARLY strong enough to try for them.
Main thing I can pull out is the "TU" at the end of each Q.
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W4VKU
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« Reply #72 on: December 03, 2012, 01:26:38 AM »

They are on 7180 now 0900z and are booming on my G5RV at 65ft. Infact moving
the S-meter and an effortless copy.

With the JA/NA pile, working him on a dipole could be a challenge,but he is there
for those that need an ATNO.

To the contrary, the 20m cw signal is a tough copy on 3ele at 68ft on SP(227 deg) as well
as LP(47 deg) from here in NC.

Krish
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« Reply #73 on: December 03, 2012, 03:17:52 AM »

They have a nice signal coming into North Florida on 7180 at 1050z also.  It looks like they will be staying on the island tonight also or the sun hasn't set.  At least they didn't have to deal with the net community QRMing at that time of the morning.  Their split spread at that time was from 7185 - 7195.
Randy
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« Reply #74 on: December 03, 2012, 04:16:08 AM »

Rich,
 The 80m cw op today left (shortly after 9:45z) when the conditions got a lot better up here on the East Coast. The
 stations in FL were able to work him a good 30 minutes earlier. When he was very copyable, he left. I wish they stay a bit
 longer till East Coast sunrise. The sun rises in FL about 20 minutes ahead of here in NC.

73s
krish
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