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Author Topic: Q52 versus Hexbeam for NOISE  (Read 14427 times)

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« on: April 16, 2013, 01:36:30 PM »

I live in an urban QTH with lots of noise.

My current antenna is a low-mounted (30') inverted-V. Based on what I glean from the net, it's mixture of vertical and horizontal polarization components makes it more susceptible to noise pickup than horizontally polarized antennas. Stretched out horizontal wires are out of the question. It's too small here.

I'm in the last hours, days, weeks before putting up a roof-mounted horizontally polarized directional (rotatable) antenna.

The choices have boiled down to either a Q52 from N6BT, or a hexbeam (Traffie specifically).  Note: I know about the delivery/service issues regarding N6BT products and don't want to rehash that in this context. Likewise, the choice of a Traffie over a K4KIO is largely based on physical size - the 3 foot smaller diameter is important at this QTH - so I don't want to rehash that, either.

The XYL greatly prefers the clean look of the Q52 to the "non traditional" look of the hexbeam (In fairness, given where we live, her point is not lost on me). Otherwise the hexbeam would already be up.)

So, the antenna change was largely motivated by a desire to alleviate noise (not QRM).

And in that context, is there any reason to believe that one of these antennas would provide better noise rejection than the other?

73, Chris NW6V

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« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2013, 02:05:28 PM »

Just I guess, but I suspect the Q52 might be better in this regard because it's bandswitched and only tuned to one band at a time using selective circuits within the two "matchbox" units.

However a lot of this may be closely related to how high above ground you install either antenna, and also what the noise source(s) really is(are).  There's not a lot of atmospheric noise on 20 through 10 meters unless there are lightning storms in the area and these bands can be pretty "quiet" (my noise level at home using an 8 element LPDA is usually in the S1 area on these bands), so it's been my experience that most "high noise level" issues are locally created and man-made.  Either eliminating those sources or moving the antenna farther away from them helps a lot!


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« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2013, 02:27:03 PM »

Thanks. Interesting observation about the possible impact of the matching systems; I see your point.

Either antenna will be at about 30 feet, 10 feet or so above a shingle roof.

I'm speaking almost entirely of locally man-made electrical noise - The neighborhood is zoned R7 - seven residences per acre... so an astonishing number of electrical devices, power supplies, computers and whatnot are all within rock-throwing distance. I've been working on remediating those as much as possible for the last 8 months or so - but am at a point of greatly diminishing returns in that regard. Cut better than 2 S units of racket out of my own QTH!

Point is, I don't expect to find a magic bullet in regard to additional electrical noise alleviation - and I'm about to have a practical lesson in the degree to which the antenna choice can have an impact. Thus trying to optimize the choice to the degree possible (practical)
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