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Author Topic: Pileup Runner  (Read 1515 times)
K0YQ
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« on: May 10, 2013, 07:31:30 AM »

I've been messing around with VE3NEA's Pileup Runner program and it's quite addictive and fun.  It sure makes one realize just how good the top-notch CW DXpeditioners and Contesters are. 

Are most of the DXpeds now using some type of visual CW skimmer display to watch a slice of bandwidth?

Great program Alex!  I can only imagine what my cluster comments would look like running a pileup.
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N3QE
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« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2013, 08:13:21 AM »

I don't know if the DXpedition is using Skimmer, but there are some Youtube videos showing folks on the sideline watching DXpedition pileups with Skimmer:

ST0R: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDVdwWfiAZw

7O6T: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqlp-t4y8Kw

TX5K: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0r1ZJbaEESw
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K0YQ
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« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2013, 09:23:33 AM »

I don't know if the DXpedition is using Skimmer, but there are some Youtube videos showing folks on the sideline watching DXpedition pileups with Skimmer:

ST0R: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDVdwWfiAZw

7O6T: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqlp-t4y8Kw

TX5K: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0r1ZJbaEESw

Great vids and crazy pileups.  The reason I ask about expedition skimmers is that it would seemingly explain why some stations just call ad infinitum.  The objective being to be seen on the screen as much as to be heard.
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N3QE
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« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2013, 09:55:23 AM »

Great vids and crazy pileups.  The reason I ask about expedition skimmers is that it would seemingly explain why some stations just call ad infinitum.  The objective being to be seen on the screen as much as to be heard.

Oh, no, that's not a valid explanation. The reason bozos call ad infinitum is because they're bozos who cannot hear the DX. One very important reason they are not hearing the DX, is because they never stop transmitting!

Skimmer is a very useful tool, but it should never ever be an excuse for lousy operating practices!
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K0YQ
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« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2013, 10:29:53 AM »

Great vids and crazy pileups.  The reason I ask about expedition skimmers is that it would seemingly explain why some stations just call ad infinitum.  The objective being to be seen on the screen as much as to be heard.

Skimmer is a very useful tool, but it should never ever be an excuse for lousy operating practices!

Oh I agree completely.  I personally don't use a panadapter/skimmer but after messing around with Pileup Runner I could see how someone that does might think concerning "working the other end".  I was just curious about the big DXped operations.  Thanks agn for the vids.
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« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2013, 11:08:47 AM »

I've been on seven DXpeditions and I have never seen skimmer or clusters in use during the DXpedition.  There is no need, there is always propagation to somewhere and there always strong signals to work.  Working weaker, far away stations is more fun.

I enjoy skimmer/clusters in my shack but they are not needed on a DXpedition.
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4O4A
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« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2013, 03:02:05 PM »

I see this as a very nice toy. But at the end of the day, there always will be boys and their radios.
Paul, you've been on 7 DX-peditions and you never used skimmer. I worked at least 500 DX-peditions so far, and never spotted unpredictable behavior of running station, no matter is there an expert or novice on the other side. There is always a pattern. Reading calls from the screen and jumping up and down because of that hardly can be recognized as pattern.
Besides, once you found yourself on the "dark side of pile up" there is no way that you will let some skimmer-robot-mambo-jumbo to handle your joy. No way!
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NI0C
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« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2013, 06:54:09 PM »

TNX to K0YQ for pointing out this fun program.  I downloaded it today and scored 51 points in my first 15 minute session with it.  Good practice to see what the business end of a crazy pileup sounds like!
73,
Chuck  NI0C 
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