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Author Topic: Is resale value a consideration for you when you buy a radio?  (Read 10409 times)
K5TED
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« on: September 03, 2013, 12:06:21 AM »

Just wondering.

Are you a collector or a reseller?

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N0IU
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« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2013, 03:44:04 AM »

Neither. I am a user of radio gear.

I buy a radio based on how well it suits my needs and my financial situation at the time. I deal with the value of the radio at the time I put it up for sale, not at the time of the purchase.
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W8GP
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« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2013, 05:04:16 AM »

What he said....
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K9IUQ
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« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2013, 05:56:33 AM »

If resale value was a consideration when buying a radio no one would every buy a SDR. SDR's seem to have the worst resale value of any radio. Try selling a old Flexradio, Kachina radio. No one wants them.

OTOH knobbed equipment from the 50's has a good resale value, some even cost more than they did when new.

I have never considered resale value when buying any equipment. I have been both lucky and unlucky. I have been taken to the cleaners on Flexradios. I have also done very well with Icom Radios and Yaesu radios. For instance I bought a FT-1000 in 1991. It was a top shelf radio and I paid about $2300. A few years ago I sold it on the used market for $1500. That radio cost me about $50 a year, a sweet deal.

OTOH I bought a Flexradio 5K for $3700. I had it 11 months and sold it for $2700. That radio cost me about $100 a MONTH.

Stan K9IUQ
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K5TED
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« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2013, 07:19:08 AM »

21 assorted models of Flex radios, from the 1000 to the 3000 to the 5000 have sold on eBay since June. That's 7 per month.

That's fairly brisk resale business, considering the overall number of Flex Radios out there compared to the other manufacturers.

Seems a LOT of people want them and they are easy to sell.

Flex 1500's seem to do well, going for between 550 to 600+ MSRP is 700
Flex 3000's seem to do well, going for 1200 to 1300 MSRP is 1700
Flex 5000's fare the worse, going for between 2400-2700 Depends on the model, but they tend to fare worse.

Since there are no other mainstream mid-priced SDR transceiver manufacturers with any appreciable sales over the past 10 years to compare, let's move on..

Yaesu FT-2000's which retailed for nearly $3000, go for 1700-2100

TS-590's go for 1100 to 1300  MSRP 1799

IC-7410's go for 1000 to 1300 MSRP of 2000



I'd say of all the radios mentioned, the Flex tends to have a roughly equal resale value, percentage wise, than knobbed rigs in their class. No evidence of lack of demand for them.

A Yaesu MkV FT-1000 Field went for 2400 in 2005 dollars (2869 in 2013 dollars), now goes for 1200-1600 2013 dollars. That's roughly a 50% loss in real value in only 8 years.

A Collins KWM2-A in 1961 sold for 1250, that's a whopping 9765 in 2013 dollars. Now goes for 700-1000 2013, which is 128 bucks in 1961 dollars. I wouldn't say it held it's value any better than a modern rig.

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K0OD
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« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2013, 07:35:11 AM »

Nice research TED

Re: Collins KWM2-As. I'm sure many of them had hard use in the military in Nam
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K9IUQ
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« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2013, 08:15:26 AM »


That's fairly brisk resale business, considering the overall number of Flex Radios out there compared to the other manufacturers.

Seems a LOT of people want them and they are easy to sell.

Flex 5000's fare the worse, going for between 2400-2700 Depends on the model, but they tend to fare worse.


There IS a brisk resale business in Flexradios because so many hams want to get rid of them. Clueless SDR newbies buy them used and then they get rid of them..

NO ham pays MSRP, if he does he ain't too smart.

You need to update your Flexradio 5K prices. They are not correct at this point in time:
http://www.eham.net/ehamforum/smf/index.php/topic,92002.0.html

Stan K9IUQ
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K5TED
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« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2013, 09:13:28 AM »

my Flex 5000 price range is based on 5 radios that sold for between 2400 and 2800 over the past 3 months, not 1 fire sale.

those 5 are documented, not anecdotal.
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W1JKA
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« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2013, 10:30:08 AM »

No,just more stuff for my grandkids to play or do what they want with,same as I have done with my great grand dad's and grandfather's radio gear.
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G3RZP
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« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2013, 10:47:47 AM »

Tx IMD performance of the Flex radios isn't particularly good, when I would have thought they had the capability of clever things like pre-distortion.
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K5TED
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« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2013, 02:33:20 PM »

Tx IMD performance of the Flex radios isn't particularly good, when I would have thought they had the capability of clever things like pre-distortion.

Hello mate, i believe you've gotten us confused with the "Is TX IMD a consideration for you when you buy a radio" thread.

That said, how would you rate various other radios as compared the Flex inasmuch as it pertains to Tx IMD vs. resale value?
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G3RZP
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« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2013, 01:49:03 AM »

Most people don't really care too much about TX IMD unless they get too many reports of splatter, so it doesn't really affect resale value. I haven't looked back at the product reviews in detail, but I seem to remember the receiver performance isn't that great.  Some people change rigs almost as often as underwear, so in many cases it's a fashion thing.

Personally, resale value is not a parameter I worry about. But the only HF rig I ever bought new was a HW101: my FT102 was pre-owned by my father, who bought it 6 months before he went SK.
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K1CJS
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« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2013, 06:29:38 AM »

To get back to original question, no it isn't.  I get a radio to use it, not to make money trading it off.
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« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2013, 01:29:05 AM »

I treat my radios like my car, I run it until it becomes uneconomical to repair then I sell it for scrap. I got nearly half a million miles from my Saab 900 before it died and my Ten Tec Corsair II still gets fired up once in a while.

I don't believe in the throw away society.

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K5TED
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« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2013, 05:01:53 PM »

Some recent sales:

IC-7800  Discounted retail price, $9,974.00   Sold for $6467   Ouch!
IC-7600  Discounted retail price, $3399.00    Sold for $2438
IC- 7200 Discounted retail price, $999          Sold for $743

FTDX-5000 Oops, sorry. It's discontinued..    Sold for $4250  Not bad. Only $1500 loss.
FTDX-3000 Discounted retail price, $2379     Sold for $2150
FT-2000 Open box, new, warranty,  $2029     Sold for $1450 (I'd have gone the Open Box)

Kenwood TS-2000, Discounted retail price, $1430  Sold for $951
Kenwood TS-590,  Discounted retail price, $1500   Sold for $1106 (only 2 months old)

Ten Tec Eagle, Retail price $1819, Sold for $1525, loaded.

Flex 5000A, Retail price, $2799, sold for $2450, 9/1/2013


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