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Author Topic: Another one bites the dust...  (Read 10526 times)
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« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2014, 03:43:56 PM »

My only regret is that the fine isn't significantly higher.
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« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2014, 03:58:59 PM »

I tend to temper my desired outcome, since afterall, nothing has really finalized yet...I may not live that long...LOL
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« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2014, 06:36:00 PM »

Somehow this does not seem to be the right approach.  If you take a gun and go outside and fire a clip into the sky and the PD grabs you, they take the gun and you have to go to court to get it back.  (in Chicago you may never get it back).

If the feds, after repeated warnings, confiscated your equipment and you had  to go to court (and pay a lawyer) the violations may slow down a bit.  At least the one who had his shit taken wouldn't be on the air.  Don't say that they couldn't do this because they take cars for a variety of reasons that were unheard of years ago.
Art

In Canada, they would take all the gear capable of transmitting on any licensed service. I kinda like that, if only they that here...
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« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2014, 07:23:07 AM »

Sure wish Canada would...I think that would likely reduce the amount of nonsense on there by more than 50%....worth a try at least...that is, if Canada can man-up and do it...
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« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2014, 12:09:21 AM »

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Don't say that they couldn't do this because they take cars for a variety of reasons that were unheard of years ago.
So...you're suggesting that the public (that's us) support the ILLEGAL practices that law enforcement has taken to using?  How is replacing one illegal practice (radio interference) with yet another illegal practice (confiscation of personal property) helping the situation.
NOW, if the prosecuting attorney requests, and the judge approves, an order that prohibits the criminal from owning radio transmitting equipment, AND he/she is given a reasonable opportunity to dispose of that equipment, I see that as reasonable and just.  Even if the proceeds are forfeited as fines.  But, for the state to steal from, even, a criminal is just plain wrong and should NOT be encouraged.  Our governments, federal, state and local, are all taking FAR TOO MANY liberties with the law as it is.  The last thing we need to do is to publically encourage more of it or support it in any way.
Now, the difference may seem miniscule to some but, in reality, it is not.  Governmental misconduct is a slippery slope that MUST be checked and WE, THE PUBLIC MUST demand that legal and proper procedures be followed or, who knows what the next breach will bring.
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« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2014, 04:30:56 AM »

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Governmental misconduct is a slippery slope that MUST be checked and WE, THE PUBLIC MUST demand that legal and proper procedures be followed or, who knows what the next breach will bring.
OMG and you live in CA!  Smiley  Well said!
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« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2014, 10:01:07 AM »

watch some of the "border Wars" shows ans see what they confiscate, cars, dope, cash , rifles, pistols, ammo, lots of stuff, and I hope they keep on doing it.
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« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2014, 10:24:59 AM »

Somehow this does not seem to be the right approach.  If you take a gun and go outside and fire a clip into the sky and the PD grabs you, they take the gun and you have to go to court to get it back.  (in Chicago you may never get it back).

If the feds, after repeated warnings, confiscated your equipment and you had  to go to court (and pay a lawyer) the violations may slow down a bit.  At least the one who had his shit taken wouldn't be on the air.  Don't say that they couldn't do this because they take cars for a variety of reasons that were unheard of years ago.
Art

In Canada, they would take all the gear capable of transmitting on any licensed service. I kinda like that, if only they that here...

Industry Canada has not had a single amateur enforcement case since they took over enforcement from the DOC in 1996. Not one. They took away a 300 watt broadcast FM transmitter from some teenager in Ontario. Canada is fully socialist, and you get paid the same amount of money whether you do your job or not. Canada has so many horrible operators now that they should be removed from all International Amateur treaties. There is zero spectrum enforcement by Canada. None. Nada. Zilch. Death threats and graphic profanity do not constitute free speech. In a civilized country with a functioning government, VE7KFM would have been off the air ten years ago. You also have to wonder about Canada's mental health system. Pedophilia is considered a disability. Not only do they very rarely arrest for child molestation, they pay the molester benefits! And their sex offender list is not even accessible by the public. Canada is a fully dysfunctional country thanks to it's lib politics.
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