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Author Topic: Motola HT and Maxtrac encryption  (Read 10302 times)
KD2CRS
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« on: October 29, 2014, 10:53:19 AM »

Looking for some details on which Motorola MaxTrac and HT series radios can be programmed with encryption software.

Others as well as long as they are comparable with others
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W6EM
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« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2014, 12:47:00 PM »

Check out www.batlabs.com  Lots of stuff on how to program them, interface (RIB) boxes, etc.


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« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2014, 12:06:54 PM »

What aspect of the amateur radio hobby are you involved with that requires encryption?


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« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2014, 04:53:11 PM »

Looking for some details on which Motorola MaxTrac and HT series radios can be programmed with encryption software.

Others as well as long as they are comparable with others

Encryption is not allowed on amateur bands. 
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« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2014, 09:28:07 PM »

Speak to each other in Lithuanian and i.d. in English!
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W6EM
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« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2014, 05:37:56 PM »

As has been said earlier, encryption is not permitted in the Amateur Service.  If you want privacy, you can always buy a digital format radio, such as a /\/\ XTS or some such that can run P25, as most hams don't use gear with P25 protocol.

Maxtracs weren't, to my knowledge, encryption-capable anyway.  Although most of them from the Spectra and later are encrytion-capable with the right accessory.  Some of the Maxtracs could do trunking with the right firmware installed, but usually those were 800 or 900 MHz radios.  There are two diiferent controller/logic boards. 

Go over to batlabs.com and look at the Maxtrac in depth.  They'll tell you how to make a 32 channel radio out of a two channel one.  You'll need the 2-LED channel display front to do that, though.  Any that have that front and a logic board with a 16 pin accessory socket on the back can be made into a 32 channel radio.  Batlabs will tell you how it can be done.  You can swap out logic boards.
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AA4HA
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« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2014, 10:07:56 AM »

Regarding the MAXTRAC and encryption;

The brains in the MAXTRAC are not capable of any such function. If you have seen encryption used on a MAXTRAC it was an external device of some type. It may of been "inside" the radio enclosure but it is a third party solution.

As has been stated by others, encryption is not allowed on the amateur radio service. If you are planning on using encryption on a non-ham radio band then it needs to be coordinated through the licensee for that service. They determine the technology employed (there are lots of different ways it is done) and who has the key values to "join" their encrypted network.

If you want to stay "under the radar" of snoopy people then do not use encryption. Someone operating encryption on the ham bands will attract absolutely the wrong type of attention.. Think of how many three letter agencies are immediately going to suspect you are up to no-good and associated with terrorism and your door gets kicked down at 3 am by people dressed in black.

I know of no version of Motorola RSS for MAXTRAC that supports encryption. It is a good little radio and many can be moved over into the amateur radio bands with either a simple hack to extend band operation or changes to the PLL or some hardware modifications (brass slugs into the helicals, a bit of soldering here or there).

At Batlabs they do have good information on how to modify MAXTRAC's for amateur radio service and more importantly, tell you exactly what models can be modified for what bands (it is not a universal solution by any means).
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