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by KI4GXI on June 21, 2005
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First time post here and the topic listed may not be what you expected, but I just had to vent some frustrations after a few recent DX experiences. Usually it goes something like this: All of a sudden the band is open, DX a plenty and here I am trying to break a pileup with my barefoot TS-830S and a dipole, so what I am trying get through? Often when the DX station comes back to a caller the response is something like "rodger, rodger, we've worked about SIX times this month, but I just wanted to see how my 7 over 7 with a kilowatt is working TODAY" Then a short transmission from the DX followed by "rodger rodger, lots of stations in the pile up so I won't keep you, BUT, how is the weather, the kids, local politics, ragchew, ragchew, ragchew", short DX reply, then "rodger, rodger,won't keep you BUT, how is the grass growing, the weather again, vacation plans,......", then another short DX reply and finally "well glad to work you AGAIN,73 blah blah blah, 73 blah blah blah, 73" and then finally I hear the DX call QRZ! Sorry if I am exaggerating or maybe I am just jealous of some of the other station's signals compared to my spartan setup, but how about having some respect for people who haven't worked that particular DX station before? Maybe let some newbies in.
In all fairness, I must say the majority of stateside stations do really cut to the chase and clear as fast as possible when they realize the pile up is big to let the next guy in, it just seems like that when we do get those brief openings, thats when the other type come on and tie up the DX station until either propagation loss or QSB wipes you out.
Sorry to vent, but I feel better now.
73 de AI4KW
Thom
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by WA6YUL on June 21, 2005
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I know what you mean. When I get lucky and make the contact I just say 73 and end it. Some people just want to talk awhile during a pileup I guess. It really bugs me when they ask the guy several times for his call. I listen or check the cluster and get his call before I ever call the first time. Really irks me when someone just stumbles across the DX and doesn't know to just give their call. Instead they give their call, location and family history while the rest of us are tring to hear who the dx station came back to. I just keep reminding myself that we all have different interest in Ham radio and eventually I'll probably make the contact.
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by WB2WIK on June 22, 2005
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When the Stateside (or others, hams from around the world do this frequently) station begins a ragchew with DX, it is very unusual that the DX is "rare." More commonly, it's just somebody in another country and they know each other, having worked many times before. Nobody will ever win a popularity contest doing what you described when the DX station is truly rare and the whole world is standing by.
Go work the next one, and come back later to this one -- that's what I do.
WB2WIK/6
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by KY6R on June 23, 2005
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Its "chest beating" pure and simple, even if the two know each other. But it is part of DX-ing, and you just get used to it - and work that DX station that you really - really need, when you can.
DX-ing certainly tests your patience. I guess if it were easier it would be no real challenge / fun.
I love it when not only do these guys delay a pile up, but then spot it on the "cluckster" day after day after day.
Go figure . . .
Best DX,
Rich
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by KB9CRY on June 27, 2005
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Thom, welcome to the world of working DX. Most of us started with setups as you described and have been through all you state. Believe me, just keep at it, it will happen. The most important part is that you are learning invaluable operating skills which will only help you later on. You're learning about working pileups, operating habits, propagation, gray line, etc. I used to be like you and just hated those repeat guys; now that I've got a "super" station, I guess I'm one of them. But, I also and I believe most others, do know that you are there and don't want to ruin your chances. Be nice and polite and these folks can be your friend also. Like over the weekend, I worked the R750KG station right after a weak 6 lander worked him. He didn't get the call correct and the 6 lander got stepped on when he tried to correct his call (the 6 lander needs to learn about using phonetics and enunciating his call). Since I was loud, I corrected the 6 lander's call for him and now he'll get a card. Keep at it, don't get discouraged. Phil KB9CRY
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by KA3NRX on July 6, 2005
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Won't hold it. Many calling.....AAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!!...GET LOST ALREADY!
Using a G5RV and a 100 w rig barefoot, I feel your pain!
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by K0IZ on July 12, 2005
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I think the worst is the guy that has diarrhea of the mouth and, after taking forever to do the basics, says several time, "well, better let you go, don't want to keep you, lots of stations calling you ....".
The good operators can do it all in 10 seconds or less.
John
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by N3ZKP on July 12, 2005
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"You're 5/9 in Baltimore, Maryland. Thanks, N3ZKP"
What more is needed for a response?
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by YI9VCQ on July 15, 2005
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The DX operator sets the tone for the exchange.
When I start a run during good conditions with many stations calling, I don't allow any sidetracking. If someone sends a bunch of unnecessary info, I just say "TU" or "thanks" and roll on without skipping a beat.
OTOH, some DX likes a little bit of ragchewing. If it starts to frustrate me while waiting in line, I just say forget it and move on.
Work me during a pileup and you just get your report and a thank you!
73,
Korey
YI9VCQ/KA5VCQ
Al Asad AB, Iraq
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by KG6MZS on July 17, 2005
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"The DX operator sets the tone for the exchange."
Even to a newbie like me this seems like the obvious rule of thumb.
To me it makes no more sense to get upset with a DX operator that wants to shoot the breeze a bit than it does to get upset with one that is all business and only wants a quick handshake.
The key is that it is really their call.
I listen for a while to get a feel for the operator and I'm more than happy to honor their style.
It is tough when it is one you need and they are only taking 3 calls an hour, but thems the breaks. I'm just running a 100w into a wire, too.
The only time you will hear me saying "there are many people calling you" is after I've chatted with some partiularly garrulous DX operator for a few.
73 de
Eric
KG6MZS
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