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by VK4TJF on April 23, 2008
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just to put it out there, say you are trying for the DXCC and your home station is a dipole antenna and you transmit 100 watts. Then you go to a participate in a contest with a big station with multiple beam arrays and rotating towers, you show up a day before the the contest starts and rack up many QSO's using the contest station using your own call sign. is it in the spirit of the DXCC to claim those QSOs once you get the QSL cards?
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by KA3NRX on April 23, 2008
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Well, I will put it to you this way. The less people know, the better!.....;-D......
Seriously, though, I don't think it's a big deal. I wouldnt' go blabing it around the world either, but I don't think it really matters. Way back when I was going for my WAS, I was desparate to work Maryland as my last state, as I only had up a tri band dipole for 20, 15, and 10 meters. Couldn't find MD on those bands for obvious reasons, so I asked someone with 40 and 80 meter capability if I could use his station. He said OK and I worked Maryland on it without telling anyone about what sation I used. Cheating? No big deal? I personally don't think its an issue, but some may differ. You decide.
Vince P
KA3NRX
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by N3OX on April 23, 2008
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"is it in the spirit of the DXCC to claim those QSOs once you get the QSL cards?"
It's certainly allowed by the *rules.*
Personally, I don't claim contacts from other stations for my DXCC. That's a choice I've made, that I want to use a station I've put together to work my DXCC. So, when I was in college I would operate as K2CC from the club station with the big beam and work DX under my own call from my dorm room with a wire thrown out the window.
It doesn't bother me (and it certainly doesn't bother the DXCC desk) that other people went to big gun stations to work BS7H, mostly because I'm not really in this to get my callsign on a billboard somewhere, plus I have a long time to try to work 'em all. I want to see how many different places I can contact with a modest station *I* have put together with antennas that are mostly homebrew... though I did have a commercial tribander for a while.
So, it's your decision. The DXCC program allows it.
Lots of people do it. I don't do it and I'm glad I don't do it, but I don't mind one bit that other people do.
73,
Dan
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by N8UZE on April 23, 2008
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It's not an issue as far as I am concerned. The DXCC rules only limit you to operating within a single DXCC entity to claim your QSOs. They say nothing about whose station you use or what kind of station you use. Personally, I don't think it violates the spirit of the award.
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by K7UNZ on April 23, 2008
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Well, I have to admit that at first reading it sounds a little "shady", but....
What's the real difference between doing that, and simply up-grading your own home/mobile station?
I don't think it breaks the rules, but if it were me, I would always feel/know that I hadn't REALLY earned it with MY stuff (hi).
73, Jim/k7unz
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by W5GA on April 23, 2008
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As long as it's you on the key, mike or keyboard, I don't think it matters at all if it's your dollars you're using to make the QSO.
Based on your line of thought, if we changed antennas at home, going from wires and a vertical to a tower and a tribander, we'd all have to start over. And then start over again if we moved from the tribander to stacked monobanders, or increased our tower height, and so on.
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by N8UZE on April 23, 2008
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Keep in mind that some people cannot have a home station for a variety of reasons. So they use a club station or a friend's station out of necessity.
So long as you are the one on the radio and battling it out with the pile up, you've done the work.
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by N3OX on April 23, 2008
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"So long as you are the one on the radio and battling it out with the pile up, you've done the work."
This is certainly the correct interpretation of the DXCC rules. No question there, and I support that for others for any number of reasons.
However, I do have to say that I enjoy my decision to limit myself to my own station. It's given me a lot of proud DX moments, like the fact that I worked 3Y0X and KP5/N3KS from my apartment with an "invisible" antenna and 100W.
One thing my self-limitation has done for me is it pushes me to make my station better no matter what, and to set up some station even in the most restrictive circumstances I've been in. I love antenna homebrewing, and limiting myself to my own station has forced me to come up with creative solutions to getting on the air on a budget.
Improving your own station means you can stumble downstairs at 4 a.m. to work an unexpected rare new one... or grab some great DX in a half-hour stint in the evening. So, while I don't think that anyone should be required to limit themselves in this way, I can say it has been a 100% positive thing for me
to have done so. If you're feeling the inclination you might consider running with it. I'm glad I did, but it's totally up to you.
73,
Dan
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by WA4DOU on April 23, 2008
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There are differing opinions on this subject, thus no universal agreement.
I have a buddy in 9 land who told me of a visit to the station of another ham. While there, his host came across a VU (India) and my buddy had not worked it before. The host quickly made his station available and even "cranked up" the power output to several KW's. Not wishing to appear ungrateful, my buddy went on and "worked" the VU and thanked his host. He made a point of writing the qso information down on a scrap of paper and took it with him when he left. He told me that he threw the scrap of paper away upon arriving at home. He told me he would have derived no satisfaction from logging the qso for several reasons. He didn't have to elaborate.
I personally would not operate another persons station under my call. My call is unique and distinctly mine. It makes no difference to me if my antenna is only a dipole and I only have 100 watts. I've had a lot less at points in my life. I prefer that the operating awards and achievments that are reflected under my call be a direct result of my own particular efforts. I remember, with satisfaction, having worked Don Miller W9WNV/ZK1S at Suwarro Atol. I was a young sailor going to sonar school in Key West in the mid '60's. I made the qso with 35 watts and a dipole up 25 ft. high. I wouldn't be able to reflect on that with any satisfaction if I had made the qso at another hams station.
I can't tell you how to handle the question for you. That's a question you'll have to answer for yourself.
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by KY6R on April 24, 2008
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If I remember correctly, as long as you are on the same contiguous continent / country, its OK. Personally, I like to use my own station - as I keep a record of what antennas and rigs were used, and little stories about how I broke through the pileup - or whatever.
I did move once during my DXCC pursuit - but its only 7 miles away from my old house, so its virtually the same.
I have even heard of guys going across the country to work their last one - but I think if I even moved out of state I would start over again.
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