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eHam.net Forum : Elmers : What does "sandbagging" mean? Forum Help

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What does "sandbagging" mean? Reply
by KJ4KPV on April 13, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
I think this is the correct place to ask this.

I had just tuned into a local 2m band and someone was engaged into a conversation with another. One of them was complaining about somebody else kerchuncking more than several times earlier and then he kinda went on a rant about jamming and sandbagging.

I have an idea to what "jamming" is (unless there is a different explanation to the obvious), but not sure what the term sandbagging means and what it had to do with kerchuncking. Since they were engaged in a long conversation, I didn't want to interrupt. Figured I would ask here.

Also, is there an all out Ham dictionary or glossary to look up definitions, Q-terms, etc? My father taught me what 73/88 meant. Didn't realize 73 is said to a man and 88 is said to a woman.

I'm still learning a lot.

Thanks!

Semper Fi/73
Jesse
KJ4KPV
 
RE: What does "sandbagging" mean? Reply
by K6REA on April 13, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
i believe that sandbagging is just basically listening to the conversation... i think it is a term that has slipped into ham radio from cb radio.

kevin
 
RE: What does "sandbagging" mean? Reply
by K7AAT on April 13, 2009 Mail this to a friend!

I did a small amount of digging... best I came up with is one of the dictionary definitions of sandbagging .... to " ambush " or " set upon one violently ". I believe I have heard that term used in ham radio to refer to one who lurks on a frequency listening to a conversation, then he suddenly pops up on the air to attack a statement, etc, made by one of the hams speaking.

Ed K7AAT


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RE: What does "sandbagging" mean? Reply
by K0OD on April 13, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
"'m still learning a lot."

After you learn ham lingo, unlearn most of it.

Most dates from when many hams were teens and CW dominated with its real need for brevity and international Q signals. Then we had the 70s influx of "truck driver" CB babble.

It didn't help that the League decided years ago to codify the hobby's "language," some of which hadn't been in use for decades. Imagine if lessons for immigrants taught them to say things like "swell", "groovy" and even "23 skidoo."

DX, and probably other types of nets, tended to inbreed other oddball terms and procedures ("please copy" "last heard").

Plain language works best.





 
RE: What does "sandbagging" mean? Reply
by N3OX on April 13, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
"Plain language works best. "

I agree.

 
RE: What does "sandbagging" mean? Reply
by KZ1X on April 13, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
In years past, the ARRL Operating Manual was a publication that costs 50 cents -- and everybody had a copy.

Those were the days!

Sadly, the Operating Manual, which contains ALL the answers for questions like the ones you have now (and many others) has morphed into a huge and expensive book. Bad idea, ARRL.

Still, I'd strongly advocate for your getting a copy. If you came into the hobby without an Elmer, at least you can get the straight scoop on proper procedures from the book, instead of from well-meaning but uninformed "others."
 
RE: What does "sandbagging" mean? Reply
by N4LI on April 13, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
OMG. I so hate "please copy!" What a waste of bandwidth! Also, "KJ4XXX for ID." Huh? What else would it be for? There are soooo many others.

Plain language works best in both my worlds -- radio and the law.

As an aside, though... would "sandbagging" and "lurking" be synonyms in the repeater world?

Peter, N4LI (for ID)
 
RE: What does "sandbagging" mean? Reply
by N6NKN on April 13, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
I hate "computer speak" like OMG. Hi Hi
 
RE: What does "sandbagging" mean? Reply
by K1BXI on April 13, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
"Didn't realize 73 is said to a man and 88 is said to a woman."

88 means "love and kisses", be careful where you use it, it might have unintended consequences!

I agree, leave the Q codes where they belong, plain English works for me. Don't bother with "QR Mary" or QR Nancy" etc if you talk with me. Also if you keep asking me to repeat don't give me a 59. Tell me like it is, after all I'm using a G5RV, I can take it.

Excuse me for being a bit edgy, it's too close to April 15th. I'll be more civil in a few days.

John
 
RE: What does "sandbagging" mean? Reply
by K0OD on April 13, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
"Also, "KJ4XXX for ID." Huh? What else would it be for?"

Same with "last heard." Is there another time reference for signal reports?

Nails on a blackboard: Listen to repeater types making their annual HF contesting effort during Field Day. Don't they wonder why "real" contest stations NEVER use "please copy?"

Gawd I hope I don't hear any ham use the NATO recommended -- but otherwise silly -- "niner" on Tax Day. I wonder if murder rates rise around that time.

 

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