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HF with a kenwood TS-830	Reply
by KC9BUG on September 23, 2002	Mail this to a friend!
I recently got a kenwood ts 830 and an antenna tuner. I put up a dipole antenna. I am tring to learn how to use my radio and I need help! could someone point me in the right direction? I don't even know how to dip the meter.

RE: HF with a kenwood TS-830	Reply
by WB2WIK on September 23, 2002	Mail this to a friend!
Sounds like you don't have the user's manual, which is a vital tool for using the TS-830S. Definitely get the manual, it tells all in great detail. If you can't find one otherwise, www.w7fg.com sells the manual for a reasonable price. WB2WIK/6

RE: HF with a kenwood TS-830	Reply
by KC9BUG on September 23, 2002	Mail this to a friend!
I do have a user's manual, but I am stilll lost. When I think that I hvae the radio tuned up the Swr/Watt meter shows only 10 watts of forward power.

RE: HF with a kenwood TS-830	Reply
by WB2WIK on September 23, 2002	Mail this to a friend!
What kind of meter is that, you're using? Have you tried the same test with a dummy load instead of an antenna? When you measure the "10 Watts" output, is this key-down, in the CW mode, with the key closed? Or is it with the rig in the TUNE mode? Or some other mode? The TS-820S takes approximately ten seconds to fully tune up, properly, on any band, starting from "scratch." If it's taking you longer than that, you definitely need help. Possibly we can find you a local "Elmer" who can drop by your place and assist, in person, as this is far more effective than trying to learn it using the internet. But, if you can answer the questions above, we might still be able to help! 73, Steve, WB2WIK/6

RE: HF with a kenwood TS-830	Reply
by N8FVJ on September 23, 2002	Mail this to a friend!
The TS-830 has value ($350 to $450 or so), sell it for the following no tune products- $375 to $450 for a no tune solid-state Kenwood TS-440SAT (carefull, the 'AT' means antenna tuner that was an option- ask if it is installed). Another great radio- $500 to $550 for a no tune solid-state ICOM IC-737A or IC-738 with built-in antenna tuner. Tuning is not for everyone! Have fun.

RE: HF with a kenwood TS-830	Reply
by N6AJR on September 23, 2002	Mail this to a friend!
First tune the antenna , then the radio, then the amp if you have one.. Forget the "dip the plate and max the load" stuff, you will find that if you start with your output (probably the mike gain control) at a low level to start, tune the rig for max output on the swr/watt meter. be sure you have the meter set in the right (low power) mode. then peak the output. You will find that when you peak the output it is "dipping the plate" at the same time. they are the same point . so max your output on low power, (preferably into a dummy load for starters) then raise the power level and tweek it ever so gently. do this in 3 or 4 second key downs then pause a few seconds so the plates in the tubes have a chance to cool down. running tubes out of resonance causes them to heat up. so use low power then be quick on it. most tube rigs have a tune mode with low power, and put out less opn the cw mode too, sometimes and definatly less in the am mode. try it after you tune it up and give a high pitch whistle in to it on side band an you will see pretty much your true power out.. 73 tom N6AJR

RE: HF with a kenwood TS-830	Reply
by K0RS on September 24, 2002	Mail this to a friend!
Do you have the "CAR" (carrier) control advanced far enough to have a reading on the S meter when the meter switch is in the ALC position? The meter should deflect within the ALC range, not to exceed S9. If this control is counter-clockwise there will be no drive to the finals. The control is concentric with the MIC gain. This control is a good way (only way, actually) to adjust the power output on the '830 when operating CW. It will NOT however reduce the power on SSB. Try this: 1 Peak drive control for max receiver noise (upper right corner) 2 Adjust CAR control for proper level 3 Peak drive again while watching the S meter (ALC position) Tune for max deflection 4 If you don't have an external power/swr meter, switch rig's meter to RF and peak LOAD and TUNE controls for max RF output 5 Recheck carrier level with meter switch in ALC. Readjust if necessary 6 If transmitting on SSB, adjust MIC level so meter does not deflect out of ALC range on voice peaks Return the rig to receive between each step so as to not overheat the finals. You should be tuned up and ready to transmit.

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