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by BIGBLUE on March 13, 2004
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i am the owner of a commercial fishing boat often spending a week or more at sea.i have a license for a ships station so i can use an ssb(icom 802).if i purchased another ssb would i be able to communicate with my wife back home?if so what licenses would she need? thank you for your help jim
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by KT8K on March 14, 2004
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To communicate via amateur radio frequencies you would both need to be licensed hams. That's pretty easy these days, fortunately. Check out www.arrl.org. They have a lot of information on how to get your ham licenses, and their are other sources on the web as well.
There may be other, commercial ways you can stay in contact with your wife, outside of ham radio, but you will communicate much more effectively with the knowledge you will gain getting your ham license, and you will have a LOT more frequencies and ways of communicating at your disposal.
Hope you decide to join us in the most diverse and fun hobby in the world. 73 - Tim, KT8K
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by N8YV on March 14, 2004
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KT8K:
Pardon me to pieces if I'm wrong, but I think he's asking about MARINE BAND SSB, not amateur radio....
I think he pretty well knows that his wife can get an amateur license, but from what he's written, I am inferring that he wants the question answered in terms of maritime communications licensing, NOT ham radio!
My apologies to you, if this is NOT the case.
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by K3WVU on March 14, 2004
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Duh....if that's the case, why is he posting his question in a ham radio forum? Again, duh!?
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by K0ZN on March 14, 2004
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Hi,
Short version: To communicate with your wife, you both need to get Amateur Radio licenses if you want to communicate on Amateur radio frequencies. Period.
If you want to communicate on Marine HF SSB, you/she would need to apply for a commercial Marine Shore Station license. To my understanding, this would be modestly complicated and possibly involve justification to the FCC. I have no idea of how "gracious" the FCC is about granting marine shore station licenses for simply personal communications. I would hazard a guess, that they are not too accommodative. If you can clearly prove a business need, you may have a chance.
If this makes any difference to you: you ABSOLUTELY CANNOT use Amateur Radio for an commercial purposes, or conduct business in any manner. That will get you in big trouble very quickly. Amateur Radio is STRICTLY for NON-commercial use. Basically, you cannot do anything via Ham radio that will allow some one to financially benefit from it EXCEPT if is emergency communications involving saving life or property (i.e. your boat!)
If you want to be able to conduct ANY kind of business via radio, you will need some kind of Commercial radio and related license. If you just want to check and see how she is doing, how the kids did at the dentist today and if your Aunt had her birthday party, Amateur radio will serve your purpose very well. It is also a very good emergency back up in a marine application and there are a lot of Maritime Mobile amateur stations.
I don't mean this as any kind of "scare tactic", but operating ANY kind of marine or amateur radio without a license is quite illegal and can subject one to significant fines. Inspite of what some people may say, the FCC does listen and they DO " bite"!
If you are interested in an Amateur license, there are many sources. A good place to start is, as suggested above, the American Radio Relay League and/or local clubs in your area. It will take a little work, but nothing "hard" to get one. (I would think that going throught the "hoops" to get a Marine Shore Station license would be much more involved time and effort wise.) The basic Ham tests just assure that you have a knowledge of the basic FCC rules and what frequencies you can use for the level of license you get. A side benefit would be that you probably will have a LOT of fun once you get into it!
Good luck, K0ZN
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by KC2MMI on March 15, 2004
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Jim-
Check out Globalstar and Iridium. With the former you are only looking at $500 for a phone and airtime is way less than the old marine systems.
http://www.globalstaphone.com says "QUALCOMM GSP-1600 Satellite Phone Now Only $495.00 After $100.00 Instant Rebate. Refurbished Units Available In Limited Quantities For $395.00 . Receive rates for satellite telephones as LOW AS .17¢ per minute! "
You can reach her anywhere, without a phone patch. The phone is small enough to abandon ship with, too.
As a practical matter, recreational blue-water sailors often use an ICOM IC-710 series, modified open to the ham bands. Yes, this is illegal and could endanger your captain's license and your business. I've been told online that the FCC has issued summonses for this, but in 20 years of sailing and networking never heard one story--not even one sea story<G>--from any sailor saying there has been any incident or concern. The FCC's primary concern is of course that no improper transmission be made, on any band, on any service. The USCG does not inspect radios for operation under normal circumstances. Neither does the FCC. You've got to piss somebody off, or operate improperly, before either one is concerned about you.
That's a personal opinion and a personal choice.
Of course, having a ham station on board could also be an advantage. Separate radio system for emergency use, and a way crew can contact family ashore--if they choose to get licensed or work 3rd party through you.
The price of two "simple" ham stations (one at home, the other on the boat) may be less than that of having a marine SSB station at home for the wife.
I don't think you'd have any problem getting a shore station license, after all you have a bonafide reason for one, i.e. "Logistical shore support for vessel at sea" and that's why licenses are issued. No need to mention the wife.<G> The FCC licensing divison has generally been very helpful answering questions like that.
Personally I'd probably go with GlobalStar, if for no other reason than because it can be used in the abandon ship bag, and the costs may be lower too.
KC2MMi / WCO3103
Red
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