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eHam.net Forum : HomeBrew : Hybrid Moxon for 20m Forum Help

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Hybrid Moxon for 20m Reply
by M1PAH on June 25, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
I hope someone out there will be able to help.

I have built a hybrid moxon for 20m based on a design by N5GLR I found on http://www.moxonantennaproject.com/n5glrmoxon.htm

The dimensions are a follows

The director is 2 x 10ft lengths of rg58 both shorted at the ends and fed via the centre conductor

The reflector is a 21 ft long length of rt58 shorted at both ends

Both the dir and ref are 14ft long and folded with a gap between dir and ref of 23" the boom is 9ft.

My antenna is resonant at around 14.190 and the 2:1 bandwidth is from 14.161 - 14 262.

What I would like to do is optimize it for max forward gain. I have the Mmana-gal software but can't work out how to use it for what I need.

Is there anyone out there who might have used this type of antenna or has the know-how and software to give my some dimensions for an optimized version?
Any help would be greatfully received

Regards
Dave
M1PAH
 
RE: Hybrid Moxon for 20m Reply
by W5FYI on June 25, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
L.B. Cebik, W4RNL(SK), wrote extensively on Moxon antennas (aerials), including his studies on maximizing gain, etc. He also was an expert on NEC modeling techniques, and included comprehensive tutorials on his web site. Although he is gone, his works remain at www.cebik.com. You'll have to register (it's free), but then you can read more than you've ever cared to know about all kinds of antennas--a virtual on-line antenna encyclopedia! Give it a try.

FYI
 
RE: Hybrid Moxon for 20m Reply
by M1PAH on June 25, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
Thanks for that will have a look

Dave
 
RE: Hybrid Moxon for 20m Reply
by N3OX on June 25, 2009 Mail this to a friend!
"Is there anyone out there who might have used this type of antenna or has the know-how and software to give my some dimensions for an optimized version? "

Yes.

Throw out the coax "Moxon", which is really just a lossy loaded dipole.


Read this for more info:

http://www.karinya.net/g3txq/coax_antennas/

Plus, if the reflector were to actually operate as a lossy, loaded reflector, the shield would have to be split in the middle.

In short, the "theory" behind the coax Moxon is time wasting nonsense.

Here's an estimate of the pattern of a Coax "Moxon" in blue plotted against an actual Moxon in black:

http://n3ox.net/files/coaxmoxon.jpg

Then download AC6LA's Moxgen from here:

http://www.ac6la.com/

Use it to calculate the dimesions of a wire Moxon. Build it to within, say, 6mm of those dimensions.

Then it's as good as it gets (which is pretty good).

If you need more gain, you can probably eke out more from a different sort of two element yagi, but it will be much wider side to side and a Moxon is already good in terms of gain and F/B across the whole band.

But I expect replacing your lossy coax dipole with a real Moxon is really going to perk up 20m for you.

73
Dan
 

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