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6:1 balun
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by CT1FKC on December 29, 2002
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does anyone have plans for winding a 6:1 balun with toroids- a T200-2 or similar. I am planing to use one with a Windom antenna for 10 to 40 m.
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by WB6BYU on January 2, 2003
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A 4 : 1 balun is much easier to wind and will probably
work as well.
Otherwise you will need about a 5 : 2 turns ratio on
the balun, with a center tap on the high impedance
side. You could try 10 turns for the secondary and
4 turns for the primary connected to the coax in a
conventional transformer connection (separate windings)
or an autotransformer: connect the shield of the coax
to the center tap of the secondary (say, 5 turns into
a 10 turn winding) and tap the center conductor 1 turn
in from the end. (You can then experiment with the
tap for the center conductor to find the best match.)
Either of these methods may require more than 10 turns
on the secondary, depending on the permability of the
ferrite core you use, but the turns ratio will remain
the same. And I suggest that you plan to adjust the
number of turns for best SWR once you get the antenna
installed - the input impedance of a Windom is not as
constant across the spectrum as some descriptions might
imply.
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by CT1FKC on January 3, 2003
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the only thing I have tried was to build a conventional 4:1 balun and then moving the coax center conductor along the first inductor to achieve 1:1 SWR. with my antenna analyzer worked fine.I received the idea at this forum I presume, and then I have found the same idea at another web page, wich I'll send you just for curiosity.
but since I don't have much space I presume you are correct about having to tune the antenna.
73 and thank's for the reply.
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by WB6BYU on January 3, 2003
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I just re-read the original and notice you are
considering using a T-200-2 core. This particular core
may not have enough permability for the balun to work
properly.
The -2 material is powdered iron, not ferrite. The
iron can handle much more power before saturating, but
will need many more turns to have the same inductance.
With the increased turns count on the core, there may
be more problems with capacitance between the turns.
A ferrite core with a permability around 125 to 250
may be a better choice.
The required inductance in the secondary would need
to have a reactance at least 5 times the load
impedance on the lowest band. If the antenna is 300
ohms, this means 1500 ohms on 40m, or roughly 40uH
(if I calculated it correctly in my head.) Calculate
the number of turns on the core required to get this
inductance, and calculate the primary turns at 40%
of that.
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by CT1FKC on January 3, 2003
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it really seems you have calculated it right.
I have seen one or two baluns factory made and I have noticed they use ferrite and not iron cores, as you said before.
instead of having a matching circuit I may have a ressonant one.I'll order a ferrite core to test and I'll see what my dip meter tell's me.
at this moment I am waiting for good weather, so a few more weeks and I'll take my conclusions on the roof.I'll also try to find some literature about this. most I have is about homebuilding, like " Solid State Design". maybe I find the Perfect Antenna until then.
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by ZL2TVL on September 22, 2003
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http://members.fortunecity.com/xe1bef/balun.htm
shows a 6:1 balun using 2 ferrite rods, 12 turns tapped at 10th turn for 6:1
perfect for the Windom, regards ZL2TVL
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