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RE: Navy MARS kaput?
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by N9KWW on May 17, 2009
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"1. COMMANDER, NAVAL NETWORK WARFARE COMMAND (NNWC) HAS DECIDED TO
'SUNSET' THE MARS MISSION WITHIN NAVY AS OF 30 SEP 2009. NNWC HAS
REQUESTED ALL MILITARY BILLETS AND MY CIVILIAN POSITION BE DELETED
AND UNFUNDED AFTER THAT DATE. OPNAV HAS NOT YET APPROVED THIS
REQUEST."
This is the latest info i have, this came from chief MARS (navy)
Hoe this all plays out we do not know, but there is a big change comming...
Ron
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by N9KWW on May 17, 2009
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DOD DIRECTIVE 4650.2 DTD 26 JAN 1998
DOD INSTRUCTION 4650.02 (PROPOSED) NOTAL
These are the two documents that pertain to the MARS program. Here is what happened based upon the documentation presented:
The administration asked the DOD to increase funding for the MARS program over the next 4 years. DOD in turn sent out a message to the services along with the new proposed instruction. The issue at hand is funding, each branch service funded their MARS program, with the new proposal to increase the funding and program size, the NAVY asked to be out of the new funding requirement. What the NAVY did was to shut down the program, in turn the funding issue goes away. Now as I understand it, the ARMY and AIR FORCE both have taken funds from the weapons programs and redirected into the MARS program. I do not have hard documentation but this is what I believe happened.
This again is all based upon the above directives and other public documents.
In the end it is a money game, if congress increases funding, I think the NAVY will continue the MARS program. If they are asked to take it out of some other program, I believe the Navy Marine Corps MARS will end. This much is fact; Chief NAVY MARS is shutting down all the MARS stations. “AREA DIRECTORS WILL CLOSE DOWN THEIR OFFICES AND TURN IN ALL EQUIPMENT TO DRMO NOT LATER THAN 30 SEP 2009”
I do not see much help in the near future, it sounds like the end is near.
Ron
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by CURIOUSHAM on May 17, 2009
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Oh yes, it was Navy's decision, to be sure, but the services are all being hit by cuts as a result of Obama's "massive" $17 billion in budget cuts (all of which is from discretionary spending and most of that from defense). I'm sure Navy MARS funding is just a drop in the ocean (no pun intended) when compared to the massive pork being handed out by Obama as rewards to his supporters.
In the end, each service has to judge whether the program is justified, and in retrospect, Army MARS was wise...very wise..to enter into a 'reform' mode with its "MARS 101, The Road Ahead" program.
Keeping any 'marginal' defense program alive with the peacenicks in charge is going to be tough. It's a shame that Navy couldn't hang in there until 2012.
Oh well, Army MARS should be the beneficiary of those who need a soft landing, at least for the present.
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by W3LK on May 17, 2009
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<< Oh well, Army MARS should be the beneficiary of those who need a soft landing, at least for the present.>>
If Navy MARS is actually shut down, I doubt seriously that I will shift to either remaining MARS branch. I joined to support the Navy and Marine Corps.
Lon - NNN0OOR (Former MDE SMD, Deputy SMD, Assistant For Net Operations)
Southern New England Navy-Marine Corps MARS
Proudly Serving Those Who Serve
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by K3WVU on May 17, 2009
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Well, regardless of the reason, I'm sorry to see this happen.
73
Dwight AAR3DK (ex-NNN0TPR)
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by N9KWW on May 17, 2009
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If given a choice, i would go to the Air Farse... ARMY does not have any programs for ALE or any other cutting edge activities. I will have a hard time leaving the NAVY program. I joined the NAVY, Retired from the NAVY and still serve the NAVY.
Ron
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by K3WVU on May 17, 2009
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You need to look into Army MARS. Right now, it's definitely the most proactive of any MARS services. Lots of digital modes. Of course, the membership,
training, and participation requirements are tougher now as well. May not be for everyone.
73
Dwight
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