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Why men like W6WBJ don't want women on the air..
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by KI4CFS on August 2, 2006
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Why men like W6WBJ don't want women on the air..and what we should do about this?
When someone keeps throwing things out in areas that are NOT related to the topic it is ofen that they need a space to talk. sooo W6WBJ .. now you have your own place to vent.. and anyone who wants to vent with you can..
its all yours W6WBJ.. lets here it all here!
W6WBJ.. I am all ears..
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by KI4CFS on August 2, 2006
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I realize thinking about your post in my other discussion that with less places for men to actually get together with other men and relate how you would be angry about women in Ham radio.
I have to tell you I think their is value in men and women getting together in mixed gender activities but also women only getting together with women and yes, men only getting together with men.
This is for when I get together with healthy mature guys and just do guy things I bring a better man home to my wife.
I am sure their are hams that felt a loss when women came into the hobbies as their are men who thought it was wonderful to have the variety. I know in my area many of the women are some of the hardest working in the emergency services.. I appreciate that for I don't have the time to do all that they do and know the value of the position.
So W6WBJ.. and others lets get the 'unsaid' out in the open to be said..
KI4CFS
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by KC0SHZ on August 2, 2006
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I have no problem with women getting into Ham radio, and work with several women who are involved in the hobby and my wife keeps threatening to do so.
The idea that there is value in men-only activities is valid. The need for men to socialize separate from women is acute at all ages. We can't teach our boys what it really takes to be a successful man if we are constantly having to mix genders and "do girl stuff".
Men (and women) live an arc of a life, and successfully transitioning from one step of the arc to the next requires guidance and knowledge you get from people who are further up the arc. These arcs are different for men and women, so the information needed by one doesn't necessarily apply to the other.
If Ham radio serves that need for some men, OK. That said, it is a hobby open for all. Need men-only activities, start a men's net, or get involved with some of the public service events where mostly men participate.
Same goes for the women. If this hobby helps you connect to other women, OK. If you see this as of primary importance, then start a women's net or do PS actvities that more women go out for.
Bottom line is that I do this hobby for fun and to serve my community. If I am talking with a woman on the radio and achieving these goals, I am achieving these goals. If I am talking to a man and not having fun or serving my community, then even though I am talking to another man, I am not achieving my goals.
So from this op's perspective, I am up for any QSO.
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by N8UZE on August 2, 2006
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All my husband has to say to me is that the guys want to get together for some "guy time". Sometimes the guys go hunting, sometimes go on a radio outing, sometimes other activities.
In Elemering other women, sometimes I'll invite them over to work a contest with me and shoo my husband off so we can have some "girl time". He'll then go work it with "the guys".
Other times my husband and I contest together, just the two of us.
However club meetings are for all as is Field Day.
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by W6WBJ on August 2, 2006
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Hey, Martin, I really like the way you reply to your own posts! That is a really cool idea! But why stop there? Why don't you reply to your replies?
But really, in all candor, I think you should learn the difference between "their" and "there".
73 and good luck in the contest.
Billy the Bill Collector, W6WBJ
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by AC7DX on August 2, 2006
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people like that are wusses anyway and may be insecure?
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by KI4CFS on August 2, 2006
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It's goal was to get conversation going.. and it worked. .. was it a 'trick' Yes.. I admite it.. and the conversation is on...
Martin Brossman
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by KI4CFS on August 2, 2006
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A whole section just for you W6WBJ and you have nothing to say?? Afraid to step in the light? I know you have an opinion.. take the lead.. here it is big guy!
The stage was set up just for you, can you handle it?
Or must you react to some other post? That would be kind of a feminine approach wouldn’t you say? Not being direct in a section set up just for you?
KI4CFS
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by KI4CFS on August 2, 2006
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Wow.. well said.. KC0SHZ
I also agree that men need places to just be with other men, as do women, and that we have thrown the baby out with the bath water in our society. But at the same time we all benefit from diversity in other situations of both culture, race and sex. A subtle distinction that W6WBJ does not quite seem to get.
If he could, he would realize that his efforts does not help men and actually proves women who hate men that they are right.
You know I have 12 men in my life that are like brothers and it gives me a personal strength to be true to myself. It also supports me to be my wife’s lover and husband.. I would not be with my wife if she did not get my mission and purpose in life. I was content being alone. She also is a good woman that does not want a ‘placating husband’. In fact healthy women want the same.. the type of healthy women who would see W6WBJ as a wounded man with unresolved anger and just stay away from. So of course to his perspective ‘there are no women like that’.
I find another wonderful quality of ham radio among men is that since we can not ‘just talk business’ that it forces us to speak about our lives, a realness can occur. If you train your ears you can hear men caring about other men. The presence of women does not take away from this. Actually the women I know at some level seem to appreciate it. I have also met the ham operator that hides in ham radio in stead of being a effective father, leader or partner. This just using ham radio as a addiction to avoid life, like drinking or smoking. He usually complains about how his wife ‘ruined the kids’ or never likes what he does take no responsibility for being a father or leader in his own life.
The room for men to connect that W6WBJ thinks is lost with women in ham radio is not lost for me. But his wound and anger blinds him to see it.
It really is sad for what you experience and I of having both is not available to W6WBJ until he lets go of his had and need to “BE RIGHT”
Well said KC0SHZ thanks for your time.
KI4CFS
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by KI4CFS on August 2, 2006
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N9UZE.. thanks for speaking up. You are a great example of a mature women that sees value for your husband to get together with other ham's, you getting together with women ham's and then all getting together. It adds richness to life. Sadly W6WBJ does not quite see this as possible and I hope he will.
N9UZE would you add something to my discussion
http://www.eham.net/forums/Misc/4377
Advice to women interested in ham radio?
I still am planning on writing an article on it even if W6WBJ feels that helping women in any way is abusing myself and other men.
I have to say I have experience the opposite from group that view helping men in any way will take something away from Women. Very sad state.
Thanks for posting, with bad grammar, typos, poor spelling and all.
KI4CFS
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