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RE: Obama and Amateurs unique Perspective?
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by WW5AA on June 12, 2008
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"Seriously, this has nothing to do with ham radio"
It will when the "one world, one people" types in government decide it is in the interest of "all the people" to sell our frequencies!
73 de Lindy
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by KA1MDA on June 12, 2008
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I heard a great one on 40 meters a few weeks ago- can't remember the station's call, but I think he was down south in 4 land. He was in a political QSO with another station, and his words were priceless. He said (quoting to the best of my recollection):
"My daddy told me a long time ago- Son, there ain't nothin the government can give you that they haven't taken away first."
BTW, since Obama loves talking about change, here's my take on what his speeches really mean:
Change is good.
We need change.
I believe in change.
What I believe may change.
What I say may change.
Because I believe in change.
What I do tomorrow may not be what I promised today.
It may change.
But change is good.
We need change.
I need change.
Send all your spare change to my campaign.
Blah blah blah...
73, de Tom, KA1MDA
www.ka1mda.org
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by W8JI on June 12, 2008
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Let's see.
My Ham friends in New Zeland, Australia, and Europe all laugh when I tell them we don't want socialized medicine. They tell me we are fools.
I tell them we will have to wait in long lines, and they say "not here we don't".
Then a few months ago I got a blood clot in my leg. I went to a hospital and laid there for several hours before the EMP told me to go home and take a few asperins and see my doctor. My doctor was out from Friday until Monday. My doctor sent me to a specialist who saw me 10 days later, even though I had a golf ball sized clot by then.
The specialist saw me and said lay down, take aspirins, and it will go away.
A month later it was bigger and harder, and I pleaded for help. I was sent to another specialist who saw me withion a few days. A week later he stripped the vein out and removed a clot bigger than a meat ball.
This all cost me $3000 even though I had a Blue Cross HMO I pay $1100 a month for.
Last year my buddy in Australia that lives miles from everywhere has a sore back. They sent a car to pick him up. They saw him within an hour and scheduled him for surgery. He got operated on right away, and his total charges were something like $25 for some presciption co-pay.
My buds wife in New Zeland needed major heart surgery, and got in right away. Didn't cost her a dime. She's fine.
I'm having a difficult time understanding why our own system seems to work poorly yet many people think it is great.
Can anyone explain why our system costs more, doesn't work better, yet we all like it and want to keep it?
Are we afraid the rest of the people in the world are smarter than us, and we can't even copy what someone else does?
Or have we all been duped by the lobbyists?
My conclusion is our system works great if we work for someone who pays our healthcare, if we are loaded and want botox injections, or if we never get sick. Otherwise it sucks.
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by KE4DRN on June 12, 2008
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hi,
with all the fraud that we have with medicare,
we'll have much more if they force us to have
universal healthcare.
the medical business needs to be run like a business,
just like the dentists do. they all expect to be
paid in full when service is rendered. they don't file
insurance anymore. they let you file it with their
receipt for the service. keeps their costs very low.
MD offices have expensive computer software to hook up
to the insurance companies and that costs a lot of money.
plus the staff to keep up with the mountain of paperwork
generated by the medical billing software etc.
neighbors are from the UK, they are now us citizens.
they always talk about their free healthcare back
in the UK. Free no way !
Canadians travel into NY State for medical care,
they can't wait in canada.
Ask anyone in the UK and canada about their VAT
tax, that is what pays for healtchare.
Many other countries have medical coverage for the
population, they have plenty of money to pay for it.
Reason is they have NATO to protect their country and
that means the USA foots the bills for the military.
We spend so much to keep our military strong
little money left to pay for other stuff. Not to mention the mess in iraq etc.
73 james
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by KB9CRY on June 12, 2008
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Tom, ask your friends in NZ, AU, and EU land what kind of other personal "freedoms" they have? I'm talking about freedom of speech, freedom of press, freedom to assemble, 2nd Amendment type rights, etc. And I'm talking rights, not privledges.
They might paint a different picture.
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by WW5AA on June 13, 2008
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The problem we have here is that the emergency wards are full of illegals that use the service free of charge. The waiting room is packed with them getting treated for a cold, indigestion, headache and hangovers. They are not required to have ID or give an address, no medical card needed. This is costing all of us unusual folks that work for a living, are retired, and have medical insurance a bunch of tax money. Time for another "Tea Party"
73 de Lindy
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by RADIOHEAD on June 13, 2008
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1. Here's the difference in taxation between McCain and Obama: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fbxpMw4mco
2. The Democrats have a majority in Congress, but they don't have 2/3 of the vote, not enough to trump Bush's veto powers.
3. In 2000 Bush signed an energy bill that removed government regulation of gas prices and allowed speculators to run roughshod with the market. You're paying $4 a gallon because of those policies.
4. The traditional Republican party of yesteryear has been hijacked by the Neo-Cons way back in the 70s.
So, if you're voting Republican you're voting for a police state. The Patriot Act and dozens of other bills have taken away more freedoms and more rights from the average citizen since the 1920s. If you think the Democrats are "fascists" as you put it, wait until you start reading up on the current administration and the last 8 years.
Finally, please, please, do yourselves a favor and delve into what each candidate stands for, on taxes, on health care, on the war, etc.. Don't just fall for sound bites and slogans or read a short article on Fox News. Fox News is yellow journalism. One can't even put journalism in the same sentence as Fox News.
And lastly, try to leave racism and age out of it. I know that McCain is probably the same age and color as many amateur radio members, but try to consider the issues, not the looks or name as one xenophobic member pointed out, "Barrack Hussein Obama".
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by KB9CRY on June 13, 2008
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voting Republican you're voting for a police state.
And if voting Demo, when they take away your 2nd Amendment rights, you'll have the same thing.
The Patriot Act and dozens of other bills have taken away more freedoms and more rights from the average citizen since the 1920s.
I would also agree to this. None of these parties are good but we must vote.
And can't have a Tea Party without our 2nd Amendment rights.
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by WA8MEA on June 13, 2008
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Do you really want the same people who run the DMV to be in control of your health care???
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DMV is on a state level. We're talking FEDS.
I'm a "Senior Senior" in college, and I was required to be on a debate team about this issue.
My opening statement was:
"Do you want the same people who regulate the U.S. Postal Service, which couldn't even deliver my letter to a neighbor across the street, to be in charge of your health care???"
Bill
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