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RE: Young Hams be Wary: Anyone can be an Elmer
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by N2RRA on March 20, 2008
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WA4D,
I agree that our young hams should absolutely have so called Elmers be checked out by their parents or guardians. Being a parent of a 9 year old boy, child predators are my worst fear and I would be their worst nightmare.
I do not agree with abolishing the Elmer term and as for the Norman Rockwell model I believe that there are Normen Rockwell models out there. I believe that there are sincere angelic people out there that truly mean well and can be more than just a mentor to kids.
The same passion you have towards your agenda to abolishing something that was truly ment to be purely genuine others that want to be Elemers genuinely want to help new comers with that same passion. Why would you want to disrupt something so positive?
Kids, Do the right thing and make sure you have the ok from your parents. There are alot of Elemers out there that can really be an asset to your progression in this wonderful hobby and yes! there are true Elmers out there even if he/she doesn't have a degree in rocket engineering an Elmer can be someone who wants to help from the heart genuinely.
73!
Eric
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RE: Young Hams be Wary: Anyone can be an Elmer
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by N2UGB on March 22, 2008
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Agree with N2RRA. Reasonable caution is always called for these days...even between adults. But fear-mongering is silly and non-productive.
Most elmers are just nice guys and gals who aren't PHds but may have a bit more experience in the hobby. The new ham may even be more knowledgable in RF electronics than the elmer, but need some operating support and confidence building that an elmer may be able to provide.
I think FISTS evan has something called a "Code-Buddy". Definitely a non-threatening elmering on-the-air system.
73 es GL
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RE: Young Hams be Wary: Anyone can be an Elmer
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by AB0WC on May 9, 2008
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mentoring is such a powerful tool. For a kid to have a mentor or Elmer as we put it can be an important factor in success. Mentoring is not the kind of institution you can institutionalize. It's very important. Seldom do you have in professions or a serious hobby such a recognition of it. Elmering is an important thing. That being said we also live unfortunately in what is becoming a sick and perverted world. For a kid to have a mentor is an important thing but it is also important for a parent to be in the loop. Unfortunately many parents don't. Mentoring should be encouraged but ther also needs to be parental oversight.
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RE: Young Hams be Wary: Anyone can be an Elmer
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by DRSTRANGENUT on July 5, 2009
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Make sure your parents check out these men that want to "help" you. This is more important today. My mentor/elmer began fondling me inappropriately at the age of 12. I was smart enough to leave and find another. I survived.
If I told my parents, I thought I would have had a dead police officer on my hands. He was a very good friend of the family.
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RE: Young Hams be Wary: Anyone can be an Elmer
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by N0SOY on August 10, 2009
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Ham radio is rapidly declining in numbers for several reasons.
1. the young do not see the relevance in our digital society. I am in my 40's and was around when the computer started to dominate our lives. I was part of it and it was fun. But, email and all of the other digital toys are not a substitution for direct comm. The kids do not understand it. When I was a teenager, CB was the big deal. Almost all of us had one in our cars. I know, I got the radios for them. We had a great time with them. Not only would we organize impromptu get togethers but we had various games we came up with. So ham was a natural progression.
Today it is not.
2. There is a lack of interest in the established ham community to elmer the new hams old and new. Many new hams go and take the test pass get the license and that is the end. No one contacts them, helps them set up a station, gives them good advice and introduces them to the hobby. Example, I am not from the town I currently live in. I know hardly anyone and only one ham. About a year ago I upgraded to general license. I have had no one contact me to invite me to join a club, offer advice or help me get on the air. I did not expect it but it would be nice. So imagine a kid who gets the materials takes the exam, passes the license only to be ignored and not encouraged.
3. The on going argument over code and no-code is tiring to say the least. It has been settled let it die. I have seen hams put other hams down because "well I had to copy XX words a minute and he did not so I am an Uberham and superior and he is just a CBer" The law says he is a ham so he is a ham. It is childish and only hurts the hobby.
4. When a young person gets on the air welcome him and let him into the conversation. If he does something wrong explain to him what it was and how to do it correctly. I read that in the past hams would send cards to each other by mail confirming the contact. I do know if they still do but sending a physical reminder of the first contact is a great way to encourage interest. I remember seeing something about ecards or something. That is like sending an email and has no meaning.
These are some of my thoughts feel free to ad to them
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