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NTIA COMPLIANT BY 2008?
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by WA9PVJ on July 17, 2005
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We at AF MARS were just informed that ALL participation shall be with radios that meet the NTIA standards by the year 2008. This might be a non-issue for someone who already has one of the few NTIA compliant radios available, or if they have the bucks to spare for a highly stable oscillator. (More on this later.)
But isn’t this a case of the tail wagging the dog? In the beginning, hams volunteered their time, expertise and equipment to promote the MARS mission. Now, instead of using your regular ham gear on MARS, which was more than adequate for decades, you can use only equipment, which is NTIA compliant. Why is this? Is SHARES or FEMA using personnel who are incapable of tuning a simple receiver a few hertz? Can they only operate a CB style radio? I don’t know.
I do know, after working 32+ years for a major defense contractor, that the customer (Uncle Sam) can and will make some demanding and costly changes. But, these costs are borne by them, not the contractors. So why are we, mere volunteers, asked to foot the bill for NTIA compliant equipment? If they want us to only use NTIA compliant radios, why don’t they pay for or supply them? They are certainly not needed for the ham bands. And the truly compliant ones cost around $15,000.00!
The simple fact of the matter is that NO amateur transceiver is truly NTIA compliant or ever will be, period. So someone put up a website that says this radio is compliant and that one is not, big deal! The sales catalogues they used to gather that specification data is backed by the manufactures for the amateur bands only. It’s not “type accepted” or “certified” for anything else, MARS included. (You are not allowed to put a CR-282 high stability crystal unit into an ICOM 706MKIIG and market it for commercial marine service use, are you?)
The MARS leadership needs to re-evaluate their position on this one.
Roman
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by W3JKS on July 18, 2005
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It is not up to the MARS leadership. It is a Federal mandate - not optional. We operate on Federal frequencies, we are required to abide by their rules.
Like it or not, it is a requirement. We have seen this coming for a long time...
john W3JKS/AAT3BF/AAM3O/AAA9AC
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by WA9PVJ on July 18, 2005
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John,
That's the problem. Who made this requirement? Who can we kick out of office?
"Federal Mandate"? Last I checked, The People made the rules, not some obscure federal burocrat.
"Challange-Up" needs to be the catch phrase of the 21st century. Not only in MARS but in a lot of places.
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by N3ZKP on July 18, 2005
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<< "Federal Mandate"? Last I checked, The People made the rules, not some obscure federal burocrat. >>
What fantasy world do you live in? That's not how THIS real world operates.
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by N3ZKP on July 18, 2005
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<< We at AF MARS were just informed that ALL participation shall be with radios that meet the NTIA standards by the year 2008. >>
Informed by whom, when and how?
Unless Chief, Navy-Marine Corp MARS promulgated an ALL message today, this is the first I have heard of it.
Lon - NNN0OOR / NNN0GAW ONE
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by WA4MJF on July 18, 2005
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The CAP, another part of the USAF, has NTIA
compliant radios listed on their site.
The USAF seems to really gung ho on this.
I think most of their radios already meet
NTIA specs.
Chief Army MARS says it is not in the
foreseeable future for us.
I think that it is a service driven thing,
not NTIA driven. The Army (especially, the
green beanies) still uses a lot
of tactical radios for MARS patches, so I
(and apparently the CAM agrees) don't
see the Army changing soon.
BTW, don't get FCC certification and NTIA
specs confused, different animals.
73 de Ronnie
AAR4LG
Special Status/Life Member (or retired for short)
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by WA4MJF on July 18, 2005
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BTW, their are some. I think the Harris
radios that W1AW uses meet NTIA specs.
SGC has some NTIA spec radios, too.
73 de Ronnie
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by K3WVU on July 19, 2005
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Lon,
I did some checking, and this appears to be a non-issue as far as Navy/MARING CORPS MARS is concerned. Apparently, it's something that AF MARS has decided to do on its own.
73
Dwight
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by N3ZKP on July 19, 2005
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Dwight,
My concern is we have some guy posting supposed "facts" under a phony call sign. You notice he hasn't replied to my request for "who, when and how" details.
Lon
PS - Are you going to make the Area Conference in September?
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