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Reviews Summary for M2 Orion 2800P
M2 Orion 2800P Reviews: 35 Average rating: 4.2/5 MSRP: $1429.00
Description: 35 sq. ft. wind load rotator
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W2IHY Rating: 3/5 Sep 6, 2017 14:01 Send this review to a friend
2800 P rotor is very good the rest of the hardware need help  Time owned: more than 12 months
Purchased the M2 Orion 2800P rotor and controller when it was introduced (around 2000). Use it to turn a Mosely PRO67C3 antenna (145 pounds). I had a problem with water getting int the connectors the rotor used to connect with the control cable. M2 fix was new/different connector hardware. My fix was to eliminate the connector and solder the control cable wire to the cable coming from the rotor. The control box human factors / ease of use was awful. I called to discuss this with M2 and they acknowledged that the controller available, when I purchase the rotor, was not good and was subsequently changed. They offered to upgrade the controller to the latest shipped hardware. The upgrade was around $200. I opted to put the M2 controller out of service and purchased a Green Heron controller. The Green Heron works great and is easy to use I had the rotor bolts falling out issue. I discussed the problem with M2 and opted to get the optional aircraft bolts that they offered. When I got the rotor these bolts, to my knowledge, were not available. To my surprise, at the time I got the aircraft bolts, M2 did not ship them with every rotor they sold. Given the problem I and others have had with bolts falling out, I found it incredible that the aircraft bolts with wire to go though the bolts were not shipped with every rotor. I use a thrust bearing with the rotor. The rotor and Green Heron Controller work flawlessly turning the Mosely PRO67C3. I rate the Orion 2800P rotor as very good. I rate the controller that shipped with the 2800P as poor. I recommend buying the rotor and using a different controller. Do your homework on which controller would be best for you. I opted for a Green Heron. The controller that currently ships with the rotor may now be fine. Make sure your rotor is shipped with aircraft bolts with wire that is used to prevent the screws from coming out. Consider not using the connector hardware that ships with the rotor. The connector hardware has changed since I got it. Net the Rotor is Good) and the controller is awful.
Julius (W2IHY)
VA7DZ Rating: 1/5 Sep 30, 2016 11:10 Send this review to a friend
BAD NEWS  Time owned: more than 12 months
We unfortunately have an Orion 2800 rotator and controller failing to turn an Optibeam 16-3 and 7-el 6m yagi.

The designer of this horrible rotator should have been fired due to many really stupid design mistakes. Instead, we customers are left to fix their blunders - at OUR expense.
Bolts falling out of the too-soft aluminum housing, a leaky control pigtail that allowed water to get in, an annoying user interface on the control box and refusal to pay for fixes to their crappy design.
Other than that, it's a great product =)
We're going to AlfaSpid and maybe Green Heron.
W9CLA Rating: 2/5 Sep 20, 2016 15:16 Send this review to a friend
Rotor bolts suck  Time owned: more than 12 months
Due to the rotor bolts falling out of my rotor plate on a remotely operated US Tower TX472MDPL, about $2000 damage resulted. After only two years all the bolts managed to fall out of my rotor which caused severe damage to my tower when I cranked it down using the remotely controlled motor drive on my tower. Not only that, but it required me to have a crane come out and lift off the antenna when my tower was stuck in the full up position because the rotor jammed the tower section when it came free from the plate. I had to buy a new cable kit for my tower ($386) , remove all the antennas, and take it off the base with a crane ($750) all because the bolts failed. Now, M2 has the audacity to offer as an option, wired bolts. They should have recognized the problem early on and offered this as standard equipment . M2 sucks as far as I am concerned. Poor customer service. It is a great rotor but now the price has gone to $2170 you would think that they would offer wired bolts for that price. If they were not so small a class action suit would definitely be in order and I am seriously thinking about it if an attorney is willing to take it one.
W8CAR Rating: 5/5 Mar 29, 2015 08:42 Send this review to a friend
massive rotor  Time owned: 3 to 6 months
Purchased this to turn a stack of antennas that kept tearing up other rotors. The installation went well as the rotor can be partially disassembled to fit into tower easily. Setup went well as I'm using a Green Heron RT-21 controller. Has only been in use for 6 months but so far it has held solid in 50MPH plus winds and some massive gusting. The controlled start up and step down at the end of rotation is a plus. This is certainly an over designed rotor but it fits the bill perfectly.
AB4D Rating: 4/5 Aug 21, 2014 13:06 Send this review to a friend
Heavy Duty Rotor for Crank up Towers  Time owned: more than 12 months
I've had the Orion 2800 rotator in operation for a few years at my station. So far it continues to work okay despite the size of my large array. My antenna array including the mast weighs nearly 300 pounds. I also have a thrust bearing installed at the top of the tower to help manage the vertical weight.

The rotator has survived wind storms up to 50 mph and ice storms in the Mid-Atlantic. However, I have noticed that some looseness in the rotator or the mast clamp is beginning to develop. When the rotator is idle, several degrees of antenna sway are visible from the ground when there is a breeze.

In regard to the controller. I opted to not purchase the Orion controller. Rather I decided to purchase the Green Heron RT-21. Seemingly, a wise choice based on the reviews I have read and the many failures noted with that unit. The RT-21 easily intergraded into my station and accepts full control commands from HRD 6.2. It's operation is seamless.

The Orion 2800 was my second choice for a rotator. I initially wanted a Prosistel PST 61. A very impressive design with higher capacity ratings. However, once received, I discovered the motor would interfere with the operation of my crank up tower.

I am rating the rotator a 4 because it is showing some premature evidence of excessive wear. However, on the other hand, it is turning quite a load, and perhaps my expectations are too high. If an inspection shows it's just not up to the task. I may try to retrofit a PST-61 Rotator as a side mount with a gear/chain drive.

K4AAV Rating: 5/5 Aug 19, 2013 18:02 Send this review to a friend
Great Rotor  Time owned: 6 to 12 months
Looking all sorts of rotors out there to meet my requirements I kept coming back to M2. I read all the reviews and took them with a grain of salt. I installed a new TX-455 tower, M2 7-10-30 LPDA antenna and rotor of choice was the M2 2800P. Installed and calibration was no problem. Spins this 110 lb antenna, mast, 2/440 vertical and NN4ZZ tilt plate with no problems. Controller is working great and have not had any issues. The rotor and controller are built solid with great design and workmanship.

Great job M2.

WD5COV Rating: 0/5 Jun 13, 2013 15:57 Send this review to a friend
unreliable endless trouble  Time owned: more than 12 months
I purchased this rotor and control box new from the factory with assurance it will easily handle my m2 array of 4 x 9el 6 meter H frame array. I have nothing but problems with this rotor. Shortly after installing the rotor (within several months) the main shaft sheared. I wasnt even turning the array at this time. We didnt even have strong winds either. The array spun freely and broke the coax. I sent it back to the factory and they replaced it with a "hardened" shaft. Perhaps it should have had this "hardened" shaft installed at time of purchase. Once reinstalled after a few days, the internal parts which tell the control box which direction it pointing failed. I once again had to take it down for repairs. At this point I had my doubts of installing it again. Then the control box failed. I have had to send it back two times for repairs. Recently I had to replace the reed switch and reinstall the rotor. Again after two days in service error messages again! This is the MOST UNRELIABLE ROTOR EVER MADE! I can not turn it from the control box -AGAIN. Now I have to take the rotor down for the last time. I will never reinstall it again. To many headaches to say the least. I think a prop pitch will be my answer.
I might add, my letter to K6MYC Mike Staal went unanswered. Complete lack of customer service. I think they have had so many problems with this product the only thing to do is dodge the problem instead of providing true customer service.
I absolutely do not recommend this to anyone!
N1MM Rating: 5/5 Jan 31, 2013 12:36 Send this review to a friend
A simple fix for water ingress  Time owned: more than 12 months
I had heard of problems with water getting into through the top bearing of the rotor. What I did was buy a Fernco 2" to 3" pvc pipe adapter and used a hose clamp to hold the smaller end on the top plate of the rotor. The bell shape of the adapter shields the bearing from rain. I needed to cut the adapter down to make a tight fit, but that was easy with a utility knife. A cheap insurance policy.
K8GTQ Rating: 2/5 Jun 3, 2012 13:41 Send this review to a friend
problems and problems  Time owned: more than 12 months
I have had this rotator for six and a half years. Ordered this rotator after ordering the SteppIr Monstir. M2 assured me this rotator was suitable for this very large steppir antenna. Even before installing it on the tower, I set it up in the shack and tried it. Had to send the control box back to the factory for repairs (replaced a motor driver). Worked well for a few years of not too frequent use. It got "sloppy"(antenna moved +/- 30 degrees in wind) after a few years and I replaced the mast plate (which is splined to the rotator). THis cured the "sloppy" problem for a couple of years. Then I had problems with control box and replaced chips, sent it back to the factory three or four times, always paid for the "fixes". The fixes were generally reported as "resoldered loose wires". I don't know how the wires would become loose as the control box is never moved nor are the wires connecting it. Took it down this week to see why the antenna moved back and forth 60 to 90 degrees in the slightest wind. THe upper support bearing was completely rusted out letting water into the gear box which now has 1/4" to 1/2" of rust inside of it. The design is very poor as any water will ALWAYS sit in the bearing cup as there is not any form of water seal or water shield that would prevent water from settling there. THe gears are rusted, the spline joints are rusted The motor still works but the antenna rarely is pointed where the control box says it is. Don't know if it is worth repairing. THis rotator may work on smaller antennas, but it certainly is not built strong enough for this steppIr antenna.
VE7GBV Rating: 2/5 May 28, 2012 06:39 Send this review to a friend
CUstomer support sucks  Time owned: more than 12 months
Yes, it's built to handle big loads. However, our early AC model had some really dumb mechanical design faults - 1] a bolt which loosened, allowing a gear to drop and wreck the optical turns counter, 2] fine-pitch bolt-hole threads in the ALUMINUM housing, which of course stripped [this blunder would get you flunked out of any decent mechanical course] and 3] a wonky control cable connector which rusted and failed. Worse, when our unit went back to the factory to fix 1], nobody bothered to tell us about 3], meaning another $500 trip to the factory which could easily have been avoided.
FInally, we were treated less than fairly - WE had to pay the full cost of fixing THEIR design and product support errors .
Our letter to the CEO was ignored.
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