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Speak Out: 60-Meter Nets

A contributor states, "If memory serves, when I got on the 60-meter band over four years ago, the ARRL rules about this band advised against operating nets here. Due to Amateurs being secondary users, and that we use it on a shared basis. I've heard three different nets on 60M on 5.346.50 USB (CH-2). -- One EOC (Emergency Ops Center) out of Indiana, One EOC out of Virginia, and now a VHF/UHF group. Out of the five channels amateurs are authorized to use, only three of them are usable in my area due to QRM from different sources. Which makes me wonder why with us being secondary users, and having so little space on this band, are these nets being allowed?"

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KU8F on 2013-01-01
most of the opinons on this topic are several years old. Changes and poweer authoirzations have been made. Several nets meet on a first come first serve basis about the same time but on a free channel, and are usually very short term in nature of 30 minutes or less, with check ins from any ham wanting to join in and work all states on 60 meters.

N4DAG on 2010-03-21
After reading all the responses to the 60m net topic, I'm just curious what if any value any participant received? Was it "being heard,"
or "venting," or "correcting" a previous comment, or other?

WI7B on 2010-03-18


Well Steve,

These channels and their allocation DO NOT "belong" to the NTIA. Their were authorized and allocated by the FCC.

The letter of concern sent by the NTIA to the FCC did not go to WTB. It went to the OET, who advise the FCC bureaus on TECHNICAL and ENGINEERING issues. It was the intent of the NTIA to make known their TECHNICAL and ENGINEERING concerns to an unlimited Amateur band allocation.

In the end, it was the FCC who has, and had, the authority to allocate to Amateur Radio stations, not some made-up "discretionary" authority you say the NTIA has "imposed".

I am not sure of your experience working on 60 meters. However, the band is utilized by FOUR FCC RADIO SERVICES domestically, in addition to NTIA authorized stations.

My own experience on 5 MHz encompasses both FCC-authorized and NTIA-authorized radio services. I am acutely aware of which radio service is on what channel, and with what authority. And it is an honest fact, the NTIA does not "own" it.

73,

---* Ken

K4YZ on 2010-03-18
WI7B...

I'm not your "cowboy". My name is Steve.

Yes, "WE" are under the FCC.

The FCC, WITH THE CONSENT OF THE NTIA, authorized us to operate on those 5 channels.

We're guests on 60M, just like we are on 70cm and a handful of other bands that too many of us think are 'ours'...

You're welcome to browse any of the reams of paper that were churned out prior to our gaining access to the band that bear the FCC's near-miss adminsitrative faux pas in granting us a "band" here rather than the channels that the NTIA mandated.

73

Steve, K4YZ

WI7B on 2010-03-17

Whoa, hold on there cowboy! I think there is some misunderstanding about the 60-meter 5 channels.

While they were allocated to us domestically BY THE FCC as secondary users, internationally the band 5250 to 5400 is allocated on a primary basis to the Fixed Service and on a secondary basis to the Mobile Service. In the US, the band's occupants include FCC Part 80 (Maritime) Part 87 (Aviation) and Part 90 (Private Land Mobile).

While there is overlap with NTIA-authorized stations any specific government allocations are confidential.

OUR AUTHORITY DERIVES FROM THE FCC (as does that of Maritime, Aviation, and Private Land Mobile stations) and not some discretionary authority of the NTIA.

73,

---* Ken

K4YZ on 2010-03-17
Personally, I think these CHANNELS should be used exclusively for emergency communications, period.

Remember, in the United States these allocations "belong" to the NTIA, not to the FCC. And as such, they should be the one place where NTIA-controlled entities could come for interoperability.

Furthermore, it would greatly reduce the need for the FCC to declare "communications emergencies". Rather than have to spend half your time reminding everyone a half kc up or down that you're trying to support a disaster relief effort, you have some reasonable protected bandwidth.

Remember...these CHANNELS are NOT Amateur Radio allocations...they are CHANNELS on which we are allowed to operate at the discretion of the controlling agency.

73

Steve, K4YZ

AD4U on 2010-03-17
Generally (emergencies excepted) IMO most daily or nightly HAM nets are no longer NECESSARY. Back when I started hamming in the 1960's, nets provided a much needed public service. I remember running phone patches from the South Pole and from Vietnam, but satellite communications and cell phones have largely made this un-needed today. Nets do provide a means for HAMs to stay acquainted, but that is about all.

N4UM on 2010-03-16
I'm not crazy about "nets" not related to emcomm on 60 meters since there are usually only 2 or 3 channels available at any one time. I think there is a reasonable basis for conducting emcomm nets on the band since emcomm was one of it's original reason's for being. There are lots of times when NVIS propagation (so valuable for emcomm) is not available on 40 meters. 60 meters then becomes a good alternative for 75 meters.

W1LVL on 2010-03-16
60 meters is an good mobile band. No need to compete with full lrgal limit stations on 75 and 40. The VHF Liasion use is nice also. I see no problems with net use,

WI7B on 2010-03-15

When 60m initially started to see some traffic a few years ago, a number of OMs would get on a couple of selected channels. Naturally the OM with the best ability to hear most everyone, or the greatest inclination to bring order to chaos, would act as a "net control". It occurred automatically.

The fact that this may have taken an organizational form could have been clearly anticipated.

73,

---* Ken

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