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eHam.net Survey

Survey Question
Are you a member of your national radio association (ARRL, RSGB, RAC, etc.) or a local/regional club or organization?
  Posted: Dec 02, 2016   (1105 votes, 58 comments) by N2MG

  National club only
  Local/regional club only
  Clubs of various types
  Not yet.
  Used to be... will likely join again
  Used to be - never again!
  No clubs for me.
    (1105 votes, 58 comments)

Survey Results
National club only 33% (361)
Local/regional club only 9% (102)
Clubs of various types 40% (440)
Not yet. 1% (10)
Used to be... will likely join again 4% (43)
Used to be - never again! 7% (76)
No clubs for me. 7% (73)

Survey Comments
Tired of society politics
I have left the Swedish national society SSA due to the fact that they never listen to their general membership when deciding on policy matters. Instead, everything is about internal politics, in which small cliques foster their special interests.

If crucial matters such as the relations to spectrum regulators or the quality of the radio amateurs are raised they try at length to avoid the topics and go into "cover up mode". Often using various forms of desinformation and "spin" to confuse the members.

Also, the allowed topics of debate and discussions in the society have been steadily on its way down.

Three years ago, there was actually a proposal to the SSA Annual General Meeting to ban criticism of the society, and expel those members expressing dissenting views.

The only society that I currently belong to is the Experimenting Swedish Radio-amateurs,ESR, which is a niche organisation devoted to advancing the quality of amateur radio.

Posted by SM0AOM on May 13, 2017

Names!
The RAC in the UK is the Royal Automobile Club! and it
does seem strange (to us Brits) referring to a "doctors
office"! we call them "surgeries" yes they do perform
minor surgery there, but there again we always did
strangle the English language, HI

Posted by G3OZN on February 17, 2017

New Survey?
I hate to be a complainer, but, isn't it time for a new survey? They are up here too long. At my age, I might kick the bucket before they put up a new one! Hopefully not.

Posted by W2FBS on January 10, 2017

ARRL Too Expensive
ARRL's last dues hike of 25% to $49 was the stray that
broke my budget's back. Had they considered a Digital
QST membership for $39, I would have gone for it as I
was only reading QST on my tablet and sending the
hardcopy to recycling.

Posted by NG9W on January 10, 2017

ARRL
I dropped my ARRL Membership which I have had since 1967. Reasons are:
1. Found one good article ( DX ) Per Month
2. The ARRL's own contest reults are no
longer published.
3. Product Reviews tho not as technically
detailed,on line reviews ( E Ham Net)
offer a broader Spectrum of experience.
4. No where in QST is propagation addressed
and being one of the MOST important
topics today, the only analysis is the
ARRL's weekly propagation on line
( very well done by K7RA.)
5. The deal breaker is the poor service by
the league staff in Newington; calling
on several occasions for information on
ARRL club affliated liability policy, I
came away with the impression "Don't let
the door hit you on the way out."

Now I understand why only one in five (1/5) of US Licnesed Amateurs are ARRL Members.
The ARRL has become stale,self-serving, and has forgotten it's roots. - Randy W7TJ

Posted by W7TJ on January 10, 2017

Answers could have been better
As others have posted, "local & national" would have been a good option.

I belong to:
(a) My local club (Georgian Bay Amateur Radio Club, www.gbarc.com). I'm on the Exec. and participate in most club events.
(b) Radio Amateurs of Canada. These folks are our voice with the regulator and also provide lots of good services e.g. the electronic magazine.
(c) ARRL. Joined when first licensed in 1968. Drifted away for a few years, but rejoined when I became active again. I think QST is worth the price of membership.

Posted by VE3WI on January 5, 2017

Value of ARRL?
I belonged to the ARRL in 1966 when I started in Ham radio. After a 50-year absence, started by military service, I FINALLY got back into this great hobby, passing my General test. I immediately re-joined the ARRL and eagerly awaited my first copy of QST magazine. What a disappointment! It seemed like 80% advertisement and 20% content of which half of that was of interest to me. When my membership ran out I got an offer, to rejoin, of a "free" book (that I could buy off Amazon.com for 25 bucks) if I joined ARRL for 3 years at a cost of $150!! They must think that most Hams are retired wealthy former corp. executives or similar. Well, needless to say I passed on that offer. I do know that ARRL does do good things and any national group of folks needs a national organization to look out for their interests but it seems that ARRL has become a bit too rich for my blood and not what I consider a "good value." My local club's dues are $10/year. I wonder what the ARRL Board member's salaries are?

Posted by WA2RVX on January 1, 2017

ARRL is One Sick Puppy
Yes, I still belong. I suppose because I'm
eternally hopeful it will improve. I'm not
talking about the ad content of QST. No, my
complaint is that it SELDOM ASKS ITS MEMBERS
WHAT THEY WANT IT TO DO.

If, as it is claimed, ARRL is operated by
Directors that are elected by members, then
why is it occasionally cancelling Director
elections and not informing its members (as
it just did for the Southeastern Division
Director) and then choosing who they want for
the Director position?

Perhaps it was easy to do in the midst of a
controversial national election. In any
case, disqualifying an incumbent is a serious
matter that deserved lengthy explanation.
But, so far, no explanation. Just their
announcement of the election of Greg Sarratt,
W4OZK. The only vote was among 13 Directors,
not its Southeastern membership.

So, no wonder it only represents 22% of
licensed US amateurs. And, as this gets
around, the largest ARRL Division will surely
shrink in size, partly for the League's theft
of an election.

Posted by W6EM on January 1, 2017

The company will not let me. They demand all
my free time.

Posted by KA5ROW on January 1, 2017

Club Joining:
I am a lifer of ARRL, QCWA, and Handihams. I
became an ARRL lifer around 1976. Like they
say, there is safety in numbers. I have no
regrets. There are no close clubs to join as
I do not want to start one.

Posted by K0IC on December 28, 2016

No Interest in Local Club
Here it is ARRL & QCWA & CWops & SKCC

The local club has a great web presence but in reality they seem to be fairly dysfunctional, not uncommon. My experience was that the club just wasn't very organized nor welcoming to new members. I dropped out after a year and didn't renew; used the $ elsewhere.

On the other hand I belonged to a club that had some really good "teachers" who were willing to help the new guys with tech and operating tips. New hams were always welcomed and we had some great times on FD and helping each other with antennas and towers. But then that was in the 70's.............everything is different now.

I'm sure there are many excellent clubs out there and when we QSY to MN in 17 maybe I'll find one.

Posted by N5LB on December 24, 2016

Terrible Survey
This is a horribly crafted survey.
A typical response by many would be both a national and a local club - this was not an option. One or the other would not work for me since I belong to both ARRL and also my local club.
At the least, multiple options (select more than one) should have been included.

73 Darrell AB2E

Posted by AB2E on December 22, 2016

Never ARRL
I am a member of a local ham club, mostly dis-functional as most ham clubs are these days filled with a new wave of newly minted code-less hams, contest chasers and DX-paper chasers. As far as the ARRL. They say never say never. I will NEVER join the ARRL. The cost for membership is high, the magazine is chock full of advertisement and in my opinion, their agenda is to get as many hams into the organization at any cost, no matter how it affects the hobby. The push for contests upon contests, more and more incentive licensing, the support of a code-less license to bolster the amateur radio numbers. Where is the reach out to youth to replace the aging and dying demographic? Where is the push to get legislation to help with hams wanting to put up towers in HOA and CC&R communities? Where are the ARRL-sponsored technical demonstrations to the general population to show the general population that the hobby is still alive and well? I will buy ARRL books that are well written, I will participate in field day even though I believe that it's effectiveness is marginal in the 21st century with all of the infrastructure, other than that, I will never join the ARRL as a member. Show me the value-add ARRL.

Posted by KB6QXM on December 22, 2016

Never ARRL
I am a member of a local ham club, mostly dis-functional as most ham clubs are these days filled with a new wave of newly minted code-less hams, contest chasers and DX-paper chasers. As far as the ARRL. They say never say never. I will NEVER join the ARRL. The cost for membership is high, the magazine is chock full of advertisement and in my opinion, their agenda is to get as many hams into the organization at any cost, no matter how it affects the hobby. The push for contests upon contests, more and more incentive licensing, the support of a code-less license to bolster the amateur radio numbers. Where is the reach out to youth to replace the aging and dying demographic? Where is the push to get legislation to help with hams wanting to put up towers in HOA and CC&R communities? Where are the ARRL-sponsored technical demonstrations to the general population to show the general population that the hobby is still alive and well? I will buy ARRL books that are well written, I will participate in field day even though I believe that it's effectiveness is marginal in the 21st century with all of the infrastructure, other than that, I will never join the ARRL as a member. Show me the value-add ARRL.

Posted by KB6QXM on December 22, 2016

Ex-member
I've been an ex-member of ARRL for a long time, and an ex-member of QCWA for 16 years now. In my opinion, QCWA has become useless in the past two decades.

Posted by N3EG on December 21, 2016

ARRL
Been a life member of ARRL since 2007.Originally joined and renewed on a yearly basis when I got my novie ticket in 1991.

Posted by K2MMO on December 20, 2016

ARRL Membership?
As others have said, the ARRL is your advocate with the "powers that be". Spectrum space is highly sought after by commercial interests and the government is always looking to get more money. These commercial interests have highly paid lobbyist that are often former legislators, who do you have to counter their influence? We all need to support the ARRL in their advocacy efforts.

When I was an active pilot, I belonged to AOPA and PIA before that. Why? so I felt I had an advocate when the military and commercial airlines wanted to restrict/eliminate private aviation. BTW, 9-11 did more to undermine general aviation than the airlines could have ever hoped to accomplish.

When I owned a sailboat I belonged to BOATUS. The reasoning was similar as flying. The fought to keep charts affordable, sensible discharge regulations, reasonable fuel cost, manageable license fees, etc.

If everyone chooses to take advantage of the work of these various advocacy groups, but fail to support them, you will see costs rise and access restricted.

Posted by AF8JC on December 18, 2016

ARRL Membership?
As others have said, the ARRL is your advocate with the "powers that be". Spectrum space is highly sought after by commercial interests and the government is always looking to get more money. These commercial interests have highly paid lobbyist that are often former legislators, who do you have to counter their influence? We all need to support the ARRL in their advocacy efforts.

When I was an active pilot, I belonged to AOPA and PIA before that. Why? so I felt I had an advocate when the military and commercial airlines wanted to restrict/eliminate private aviation. BTW, 9-11 did more to undermine general aviation than the airlines could have ever hoped to accomplish.

When I owned a sailboat I belonged to BOATUS. The reasoning was similar as flying. The fought to keep charts affordable, sensible discharge regulations, reasonable fuel cost, manageable license fees, etc.

If everyone chooses to take advantage of the work of these various advocacy groups, but fail to support them, you will see costs rise and access restricted.

Posted by AF8JC on December 18, 2016

There Is No Free Lunch - Still Is True
In this hobby, we can be "loners", "doing our own thing" and still get great enjoyment out of it.

Unfortunately, there are many commercial interests that are clamoring for frequencies to use. Often, they look to take what we have.

It is also unfortunate that as "loners", we cannot effectively protect our privileges. We need to be unified. The ARRL is our "trade association"; it's our source of unity.

As a "loner" we can contribute nothing and still use the local open repeater for free. It may be legal to do so; but I don't think it's ethical. Instead, join the club and share your skills or if you hate club politics and meetings, send them as generous a donation as you can afford. We don't keep repeaters on the air for free.

I too, am on a fixed income. And I agree that the ARRL dues are high. But I pay-up because I see it as an investment in the future of a great hobby. And I support my local repeater. And FWIW, this web site is deserving of support.

Face it, this is an expensive hobby. We do our best to enjoy it without breaking our personal banks. At the ARRL, the infrastructure at W1AW was expensive to install and is expensive to maintain. And although there is a volunteer cadre, plus VEC's across the U.S., there are utility bills and full timers to be paid. The money has to come from somewhere ... dues, advertising, and donations are the main sources of income. Only our Federal government can produce money out of thin air.

I ask those who have quit the ARRL for various reasons, to reconsider, to put those reasons (as valid as they may be) aside and consider instead, the defense of our privileges and the future of the hobby, remembering the truly good work done by Ham's when disaster strikes.

Posted by N3GZR on December 16, 2016

Club Survey
Two local clubs, QCWA, and ARRL. Good
fellowship is an important part of amateur
radio.

Posted by N8AUC on December 16, 2016

Several
4 local ham clubs, 1 local antique radio club, ARRL.

Posted by AJ4LN on December 14, 2016

Wishing, Wishing...
I wish that the ARRL didn't remove the contest results &
technical articles from "QST," but they did --- and placed
them into extra-cost, separate subscriptions to "The
National Contest Journal," & "QEX."

THAT move --- to ME, at any rate --- ripped the very
heart & soul out of "QST," & effectively cheapened my
membership to the League, to which I proudly belonged to
for well over 30 years...

No matter --- what's the loss of a single Canadian
member, right…? I am now a supporter of The Radio
Amateurs of Canada anyway, & view the extensive
Amateur radio catalogue that goes by the name of "QST"
for free, in the periodicals section of my local library…it
only takes about 15 minutes to get through any one
edition anymore.

Posted by VE3CUI on December 13, 2016

Ceased ARRL membership
I dropped my ARRL membership a year or so
ago. The magazine was 90% advertising that I
can get for free on the internet. The 10%
that is articles were of limited usefulness.

ARRL does a disservice to amateur radio by
reducing it to a few points; contesting,
EMCOMM or the battle over being able to put
the ugliest tower up over your HOA restricted
property.

Posted by AA4HA on December 13, 2016

Club Survey
I have been a member of the ARRL since 1968 when I
was a novice. They are our national organization who
represents our interests in Washington, provides a
consistant and informative monthly magazine and
sponsors numerous amateur radio related events. For
those reasons alone they are worth supporting. I also
belong to two local clubs in the Chicago area, the North
Shore Radio Club that is a very well run, successful,
general purpose club and since I really enjoy DX'ing I
also belong to the Northern Illnois DX Association who
oversees the annual W9DXCC convention.

Posted by KK9H on December 13, 2016

ARRL
Whist you may not agree with every policy of
the ARRL, or your Country, or your Party, or
your Church: It's a good idea to have the
collective. You hear NEW Ideas and Opinions.
And, in the case of the ARRL, get to VOTE.
Their outreach programmes to new Hams and
young people are wonderful. Finally, they
lobby on our behalf on The Hill.

Other entities are circling our frequencies
that are worth literally millions of dollars,
hungry sharks all. This is a political
reality, and if you don't think so, you are
just kidding yourself.

I hope that every ham would see this, and
consider joining the ARRL.

All the Best!

73 DE Bill W8LV

Posted by W8LV on December 12, 2016

So many groups!
ARRL. ARES/RACES, CCRC and SWORA make up my memberships. Who else is going to speak up for amateurs in the US besides the ARRL? Being on the front line of the Cascadia Subduction Zone makes belonging to ARES/RACES critical. Our county radio club has enough decent members who I really like so I stand with them. SWORA is a regional repeater association that just has one meeting a year with free pizza and the cost of membership is only $5. Why not?

On top of that I do my VE duties as the place we hold the exams is only two blocks away from my residence. I guess that makes for five groups!

If I wanted more friends I could get a fancy smartphone, then tweet, text and talk like crazy...LOL! Amateur radio does just fine by me with the different groups and activities which are out there in this area.

Rick

Posted by WA7SGS on December 11, 2016

Club Membersip?
I have been an ARRL member since I first licensed in 1997, I just joined the RSGB and I am organizing a local club that will start up in Jan.

Posted by NA5XX on December 10, 2016

Local & ARRL for now
I am a member of our local radio club &
the ARRL.Very doubtful that I will renew
my ARRL membership in 2017 because I see
it as a total waste of money.The QST
Magazines are over 70 pages of just
advertising alone & I find only a couple
of articles that I read each month & with
DX Conditions being so poor at the time
it's not even worth what few QSL cards are
coming thru the bureau.There is a good
reason why only about 25% of Amateur Radio
Operators in the United States are ARRL
members & at their current subscription
rates that number will be even lower as
renewal time again comes around.I don't
agree with the majority of their so called
stands either so I can do without them &
their mostly useless services.If they fold
up their tents & close the doors I won't
miss them.

Posted by W4KVW on December 10, 2016

CLUBS??? WHY??
IMO the problem with clubs is that have an unwavering belief that the club and amateur radio takes precedence over everything including familial activities.

I quit my last club some years ago over a dispute which took precedence -- manning the club's booth/table at the CFMC Fest at Grays Lake or the WIFE'S BIRTHDAY.

Was told: "The Fest is only two days. You can have the wife's birthday any day."

Uh, yeah. Stoopid anuses!

Posted by N9LCD on December 10, 2016

Choices
The survey questions often leave out common combinations and make accurate answers difficult. A choice for "national plus one local" would be a common situation for this survey.
Bill -- W2WO

Posted by W2WO on December 9, 2016

I belong to ARRL and Straight Key
Century Club (SKCC - US and The North America QRP CW club and Fist CW Club

Posted by N4MJG on December 9, 2016

Club Survey
I have belonged to ARRL since 1960 and have belonged to many different area radio and repeater clubs over the years. I now belong to two local Rochester clubs but only go to the meetings of one of them. The other is larger but is rampant with politics and status seekers. I support it only because I use their repeaters on occasion.

Posted by W2FBS on December 9, 2016

mebership and activity
the only issue i have with clubs is to many belong but very few step up and participate. whether its the ARRL or a local club only a few actually participate, most don't even go to the meetings. Local clubs have politics because only a few step up to run the club, if more members took a more active stance, the politics would curtail. The national clubs do very little to help the ravage local ham.

Posted by KB9ZB on December 9, 2016

ARRL
Used to be a member of ARRL. Nearly all of the stuff that interests them doesn't interest me. I not a member of any of the response groups either. I am a communications officer for a government regional (multi-state, multi-county) SAR team with enough mutual aid agreements to paper a room. We've responded to train wrecks, tornados, Hurricane Katrina, building collapses and more. I don't have time for the other groups.

Posted by KK4JUG on December 8, 2016

clubs
I belong to the ARRL and two local clubs. I
am planning on moving across the country and
when I complete the move I will more than
likely find another club to join. I will
still maintain my membership to the current
local clubs since I like the people and want
to support them. My ARRL membership is only
because it was a gift from my son.

Posted by W4IOA on December 8, 2016

three years?
your a looser!

Posted by SSBER on December 7, 2016

three years?
your a looser!

Posted by SSBER on December 7, 2016

Clubs.
Belong to a local club. There are no dues but I always try to donate at the bi monthly meetings. We have about 5 repeaters and it cost money to run them. Unfortunately I've been unemployed for going on 3 years. Don't' have much extra money but I manage to donate to the club.

Posted by KE6TTG on December 7, 2016

hell yes
REACT

Posted by SSBER on December 7, 2016

hell yes
REACT

Posted by SSBER on December 7, 2016

RAC Membership
I like the outgoing QSL service that is available to RAC
members very, very much…

But I also enjoy receiving my issues of TCA here, and am glad
that --- as seemingly insignificant as my one single
membership may be --- I am at least contributing, in my
small way, to the overall strength of our national Amateur
radio group.

Posted by VE3CUI on December 5, 2016

Groucho said it best
I would be hesitant to join a club that would
have me for a member.

Posted by K0CBA on December 5, 2016

ARRL
It got to expensive, so I didn't renew. They
should have reduced rates for seniors. I'm on
fixed income.

Posted by KA1ICA on December 4, 2016

Survey
Member of the ARRL since I got licensed back in 1997. I was a local club member for the first 6 years but politics, in-fighting and other nonsense got me fed up with clubs and I let my membership lapse and went strictly to simplex on VHF/UHF.

Posted by KB2SMS on December 4, 2016

club survey
want money for everything even higher dues at
local club if you dont belong to national
club too much offending of each other and
backdoor controll not woth the effort of
getting mad over better off out of the bs in
this local club anyway

Posted by VE1PGC on December 4, 2016

no local for me
too much politics in all the local clubs i
have tried over the years...drama queens
galore!!!

Posted by N0FPE on December 4, 2016

Survey
I was going to say that the primary option of mational and local club is missing. Many people join the ARRL and also belong to a local club too.

Posted by KG5QHX on December 4, 2016

ARRL
Life Member of ARRL - de KG9H

Posted by KG9H on December 4, 2016

Current Survey Reponse
Member of ARRL; OMISS; and previous Local Radio Club President; currently not a member of Local Radio Club(s). '73 George, AA7LX

Posted by AA7LX on December 4, 2016

Club Survey
ARRL, NCCC and ANDEX international.

Posted by AE6YB on December 3, 2016

I chose various since you had poorly constructed questions. National(ARRL), Regional(SMC), and local(MCWA).

Posted by NT9E on December 3, 2016

Special clubs
I chose "various", meaning smaller specialty
clubs such as SKCC, FISTS, QRP, etc. No local
2 meter CB club, no ARRL.

Posted by LONESTRANGER on December 3, 2016

Poor answer choice
The most likely answer would be National/Local. But as usual the best choice isn't offered.

Posted by K2DFC on December 3, 2016

K7ATT
So let's see another expertly-crafted questionnaire from the
Meister-writer-critic, himself…!

After all, it was 25th May 2011 that we were last blessed here
with one of your own creations…

Posted by VE3CUI on December 3, 2016

Club Survey
National and International
Life Member - American Radio Relay League (ARRL),
Life Member - Philippine Amateur Radio Association
(PARA), Annual Member - Irish Radio Transmitters
Society (IRTS)

Regional
District 5 Radio Amateur Network (DX5RAN -
Philippines)

Miscellaneous
Quarter Century Wireless Association (QCWA), Six
Meter International Radio Klub (SMIRK), QRP ARCI
(QRP Amateur Radio Club International), Straight Key
Century Club (SKCC - US and Philippines)

Fun Ones
ARRL Rag Chewers Club (RCC)
ARRL Old Timers Club (OTC)

Maybe I am a Club Junkie! de WA0TML/DU5HT

Posted by WA0TML on December 2, 2016

poorly constructed answer
I agree with AA0FO - "Clubs of various types" should have been, " both national and regional/local clubs". Other than that, this is a better than average survey question, in my opinion....given the poor ones we have had this year.

Posted by K7AAT on December 2, 2016

Poorly Constructed Survey
Is both national and regional/local
considered "clubs of various types" since
there is no properly constructed answer that
includes both conditions?

Posted by AA0FO on December 2, 2016

Club survey
I am an ADD butterfly and move about.

Posted by VE3XQQ on December 2, 2016

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