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Thanks for voting! Your vote has been included in the results below.
If you work DX on 40 meters, what antenna do you most often use? Comments please...
  Posted: Apr 03, 2001
  (1057 votes, 37 comments)
by K6SQL
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Survey Results
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Simple wire antenna (dipole/vee)
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50% (524)
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Sloper or quad
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5% (51)
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Multi-element wire array
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2% (24)
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Yagi
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9% (90)
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Vertical
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25% (259)
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Yagi stack, phased verticals, 4-square
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2% (20)
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other/don't operate 40/hate DXing
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8% (89)
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Survey Comments
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Absence of Directivity on 40M
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This survey confirms that most of the antennae used have little or minimal directivity and are thus heavily influenced by the high-powered broadcast stations on frequency.
It is a difficult frequency to work with nondirective antennae because of this interference. Some antenna genius should come up with a way to build directivity into a small package. And before I get angry e-mails - that's a joke, folks.
Posted by
K1BRF
on April 6, 2001
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40m antenna
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I picked other.
I haven't done any dxing lately( other than random qso's on psk).
I dont't HATE 40 but not on it much.
I tend to be a "modal" ham....I go where my current favorite mode takes me. At one time, on cw I only ran 40& 80m.
And the other antenna.....160m fullwave loop.
Works great on all bands and is a good gen. purpose antenna.I also have a multiband homebrew toploaded vert.
73 de Matt, KF4ZGZ
Posted by
KF4ZGZ
on April 6, 2001
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Favorite band!
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Forty Meters is my favorite HF band. It requires serious antennas to operate competitively, but nothing as "unwieldy" as 80m or 160m require. Over the course of two years, I went from a low inv-vee to a slightly higher 2-el phased inv-vee array and finally a 2-el beam @33m which worked so well that it was hard to "go back" when I moved. I still have fun on 40m with the low inv-vee I currently run, but a beam would be so much better. This summer I hope to get up a stack of 3 over 3 at 42m/21m - God willing. Forty will then be "real" fun again! 73, Mike N2MG, webmaster
Posted by
N2MG
on April 6, 2001
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40m DX Antennas
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I'm now using a true 80m sloper with open wire feeders that works very good on 40m, but nothing has beaten the 3-ele Quad fed with open wire feeders fixed into Eu. Could work Asia easily during the evening greyline. 320 worked on 40m CW.
Tom/W4BQF
Posted by
W4BQF
on April 6, 2001
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G5RV Inverted Vee
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I'm very happy with a G5RV wire antenna configured as an inverted vee.
7 3 de Jim K7LA
Posted by
K7LA
on April 6, 2001
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40 Meter Antenna
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Use a full wave loop in the vertical plane. Square, top wire at 55 feet strung between two tall pine trees over a 1 acre pond (which probably has nothing to do with it) and performs very well. Fed with 300 ohm twin lead and Johnson Matchbox. Loads all bands 80 - 10 but as expected works best on 40.
Posted by
N5LB
on April 5, 2001
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GAP Voyager
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My GAP Voyager DX-IV vertical kicks tail on 40. No, it's no match for a Yagi, a rhombic, a curtain array, a four-square, or any of the other real estate intensive possibilities, but it does allow me to work the world on 7 MHz. Don't get me wrong, at 45 feet tall, it's no "low-profile" antenna, but it sits nicely in the corner of my suburban lot (with its three 57 foot counterpoise wires laid out just under the turf line). 73 de Bob, K5IQ
Posted by
K5IQ
on April 5, 2001
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Beam on 40m
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I started to like DXing in 40m after I installed a 2 element mono bander. before that I was using simple slooper which I hate. with beam only you can enjoy dxing and contesting.
Posted by
9K2HN
on April 5, 2001
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2 ele phased loops
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I use 2 element phased full-wave loops with about 19 feet of spacing (about .15 wavelength). First contact on them was a VK. I used to use 2 ele phased verticals at quarter wave spacing with a Colatchco (W1CF/W1FC) divider at a prior QTH. That worked OK, but the front-to-back never seemed that good - probably my fault!
Dick, K1HC
Posted by
K1HC
on April 4, 2001
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5 slopers
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I used to use the 5 sloper arrangement that's in the Antenna Handbook. It's the cheapest gain you can get on 40m! It's just a bit of a pain to tune it and get all the slopers down to a good SWR. Interestingly, if you treat it like 5 verticals, with single radials each, it's easier to tune. I once made one for 80m and we used it at GM7V in 1997 CQ WW, but it seemed to be too 'high angle'.
Posted by
GM4AFF
on April 4, 2001
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Rhombic
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Very few stations beat my rhombic, 270 feet on a leg at 70 feet, in to Europes and points beyond on great circle route, buthave to come down to a simple vertical for other directions. N4UH
Posted by
N4UH
on April 4, 2001
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Big simple dipole
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Since I upgraded to extra and get to use the lower 25 kHz on CW, I have thoroughly enjoyed 40 meters. My antenna is an off-center fed dipole that is over 200 feet in length, with the short leg being 66 feet in length. I use this configuration because it fits my space and puts the feedline near the shack. Ladder line fed it works well on 30 and 40 meters, and is useful on 80 and 160 meters. Currently its not very high, averaging about 30 feet high over sloping ground. Still DX is very workable on 40 and 30 meters, even at QRP levels. 40 meter DX is definitely workable with low dipoles, more antenna is only necessary to break pile-ups versuses having communication capability. However, on 80 meters something vertical is necessary in my experience to consistently work DX.
Posted by
WB8YYY
on April 4, 2001
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My only antenna
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I have an R-7000 vertical mounted on top of a twelve foot length of pipe.
It seems to get out best on 40 meters. Have worked and confirmed
220 countries in 39 zones on 40 m since 1996. I run about 700-800 watts. Forty meters is
my favorite DX band, now. It's truly amazing what happens via
the grayline-- you have to be there to believe it! I'm planning on
replacing my R-7000 with an HF-2V soon, so I can explore 80 meters next!
73 to all in this great hobby!
Chuck, NI0C
Posted by
NI0C
on April 4, 2001
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40m DX antenna
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At home use a vertical dipole hanging in a pine tree.
As guest op at contest stations have used
1) rotary dipole at 90 fet
2) 2 el cushcraft at 115ft on hill
3) 3 el KLM linear loaded yagi at 120ft
4) on several times have used
3 over 3 stack of FULL SIZE yagis on 40m.
Each upgrade was very much noticed!!!
The 3 el KLM LL did great!
but the STACKS were QUANTUM LEAPS in
performance -
Even the rotary dipole at 90 feet on
a ridge did very very well.
Most guys have NO IDEA of what they are missing if all they have used are simple
verticals and low dipoles.
With the 2 el at 115 ft I did some QRP contest and would also chase some DXpeditions at the low end of the band
with 900 w output ( same evening). Alternately QRP and
QRO ! I could copy QRP guys on the EAST coast under 500 mw
on 7.040, at the low end with QRO stations
in South India Ocean copied NO PROBLEM !
All this from Colorado USA.
Josh N7XM
Posted by
N7XM
on April 4, 2001
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Simple dipole
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I use the typical all-band ladderline feed dipole 30' in the air and it sucks on 40mtr dx........HI!
73
Posted by
K6SDW
on April 3, 2001
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wire wire wire
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Wow , no wonder you cant win with all that aluminum in the air. Ive got two 40M dipoles, one running East/West at 40 feet, and another running North/South at 25 feet. Both are the multi-band types with 80/40 elements fed with one feedline. Also an inverted L at 40 feet with the flat top running South to North. Have a 14AVQ sitting other there that gets ocassional 40 meter use also(no radials on it, but planted in middle of my drain field). I have about 265 countries on 40 meters from all this wire, using a coaxial switch in the house to figure out which one has the best incoming signal at the given time. And, never run more than 100 watts.
Posted by
N7DC
on April 3, 2001
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Nothing like a beam...
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At home I use a roof-mounted vertical at about 30' above ground, with 16 tuned radials. DX is not a problem at all...but "hearing them" is frequently a problem (noise level). On a quiet day, I can get a DX run going with a single CQ on CW, around either gray line. On a noisy day, I won't bother even calling CQ, I'm too embarrassed that DX will be calling me and I won't hear it!
But when I contest, I go back east to a large station (K2XR) and use, typically, a 40m yagi up 80' or so over the top of a large hill with a dramatic falloff in all directions. Egads, way better, a much quieter location with a much quieter antenna. It's fun to "point and shoot" by just aiming the antenna over the pole and calling CQ, to be answered by a flood of stations in the Middle East, India, and southeast Asia. And it happens frequently from there. Like falling off a log. Oh, I wish I had that system at home!
Steve WB2WIK/6
Posted by
WB2WIK
on April 3, 2001
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40 CW DX
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I once used a double sized G5RV (206' @ 50' hight) for a while, and it worked
okay, but I've returned to a perfectly tuned dipole with a balun at about 40'.
The dipole is much better. I hear the world now. My DX work is much better.
100 Watts fully adequate.
73, John N7QF in Utah
Posted by
N7QF
on April 3, 2001
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HF6V
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I use a HF6V with limited ground radials.
Works well.
Posted by
KC4IWO
on April 3, 2001
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A pair of 3el full size yagis @ 150/75 ft. in a stack
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There's nothing like it!
Posted by
WW2Y
on April 3, 2001
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Rotary Dipole
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I use a rotary 40m dipole at 75 feet. It is fascinating how well
this antenna works. DXCC on 40 is currently 309. I also have
a Hy Gain 18HT Hy Tower vertical but the dipole almost always
outperforms the vertical.
Posted by
W4FOA
on April 3, 2001
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Best 40 Meter Antenna
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I like a 40 meter Delta-loop, with ladder line feed. It's a great, low-angle DX antenna. With ladder line, it can also be used on 20~10.
Posted by
K3YD
on April 3, 2001
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Bazooka
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I use a home brew Bazooka (flat top) mounted on a fence, it works great on 40 Meters and equally well on 15 Meters (with a tuner). $13.00 in material, and 1 hour to make, you can't beat it. Several people don't care for them, but it works for me.
73 John, KM5LO
Posted by
KM5LO
on April 3, 2001
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G5RV
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My G5RV (102 feet) is horizontal, about 35
feet above the ground. I have worked over 200 countries and 39/40 zones (need 24) since October 1997. It works!
Posted by
AD1C
on April 3, 2001
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DX on 40 meters
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I use a Half Square, well almost, that is not realy cut for the band. It is 70' up, 120'over and 70' down. It is end feed with a home made remote tuner. run the EZ-nec plots and you will see why this is a good ant. for 40. It works darn good on 160 - 30 as well.
Posted by
KQ2P
on April 3, 2001
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Vertical
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I use a Hy-Gain Hy- Tower vertical on all bands. I do not have radials, lot is to small. I use 8 10 ft ground rods with copper clad wire to interconnect.. Works great. Rig is Yaesu Ft-1000 MP.
Posted by
W3BL
on April 3, 2001
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Usually a dipole, but it depends...
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I usually use either my rotatable dipole or my Cushcraft R-7000 vertical. Sometimes I sill use a 40 meter wire, other times I will use my 80/40 meter wire combo. Occasionally I use my OutBacker Outreach portable antenna system. While portable I sometimes use a double Slinky antenna, a B&W AP-10, or an MFJ-1621, or perhaps a random wire. Usually the afforementioned Outbacker, but again, the situation depends, this time on what I can put up where I am at. (Asking a ham what type of antenna he uses is a question you will get many different answers on, from the same ham!) I suppose that it depends upon which one is hearing the station(s) that I want to talk to the best, or which antenna I have me if I'm operating portable. For home use (back in Az), I plan on a large yagi in the future, but will still keep wires and verticals handy.. 73 Clinton AB7RG/9
Posted by
AB7RG
on April 3, 2001
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