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R.F.I.---the continuing scourge of Ham radio, be it "traditional" horizontal oscillators of TVs going back to the 40's, or the raucous din of to-day's plasma televisions, exercise equipment, lighting systems, furnaces, electric fences, power line leakages, AD NAUSEAM. How have YOU handled cases where somebody's electric contraption seriously hampered YOUR on-the-air activities...?
  Posted: Jul 31, 2014   (509 votes, 16 comments) by VE3CUI

  I confronted the guilty party immediately & directly, explained my circumstances, & offered my services as a tool to remedying the situation.
  I don't like confrontation, so I contacted the FCC & let THEM handle the situation.
  I operated under self-imposed "quiet hours", in order to be a good neighbour.
  I simply hit the "noise reducer" button on my transceiver, & grimaced my way through it all.
  I took the offending party to court, because they refused to co-operate with me.
  I make it a point now to operate with my linear amplifier on at all times, & give THEM a dose of RFI!
  I am very lucky in that I have never, ever experienced RFI to my operations.
    (509 votes, 16 comments)

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I confronted the guilty party immediately & directly, explained my circumstances, & offered my services as a tool to remedying the situation. 17% (86)
I don't like confrontation, so I contacted the FCC & let THEM handle the situation. 2% (10)
I operated under self-imposed "quiet hours", in order to be a good neighbour. 6% (32)
I simply hit the "noise reducer" button on my transceiver, & grimaced my way through it all. 22% (110)
I took the offending party to court, because they refused to co-operate with me. 0% (1)
I make it a point now to operate with my linear amplifier on at all times, & give THEM a dose of RFI! 4% (21)
I am very lucky in that I have never, ever experienced RFI to my operations. 49% (249)

Survey Comments
Support appreciated
I thank you, WB6DGN, for acknowledging my good intentions in regard to the survey from VE3CUI.

R.F.I. certainly is no laughing matter, especially for those who have had to endure it, or to get involved in correcting it.

It has been my habit over the years to hold other hams in high regard as much as possible. After all, if it were not for the other ham at the opposite end of the transmission, there would not be ham radio, only DX listening.

Posted by AI2IA on August 20, 2014

Misunderstanding?
AI2IA,
I read your original reply and found it cordial and constructive. Certainly nothing I read seemed untoward.
Its unfortunate that feelings were hurt but, other than replying as you did, not much else can be said. FWIW
Tom

Posted by WB6DGN on August 20, 2014

Misunderstanding?
AI2IA,
I read your original reply and found it cordial and constructive. Certainly nothing I read seemed untoward.
Its unfortunate that feelings were hurt but, other than replying as you did, not much else can be said. FWIW
Tom

Posted by WB6DGN on August 20, 2014

Do something else...
Most times when I encounter overwhelming RFI, I shut off the radio and do something else radio-related.
Typically I will pick up a soldering iron and work on one of my many ongoing projects on the bench, or grab a radio-related book and study.
For me, on air operating is only one part of the radio hobby and even though I experience RFI more often than I'd like, I still get plenty of time on the air.
Although my experiences with RFI are more prevalent than I'd like, it hasn't been so pervasive that I have felt I needed to investigate and address.
Merely my 2¢ and YMMV.
73 de AB1DQ/JAMES
Bedford, Mass.

Posted by AB1DQ on August 4, 2014

City
I had a terrible problem with RFI from our
street lights overloading my reciever. I was
able to trace the source down. I contacted the
city, explained that I was a ham and had traced
the noise to the offending light-pole (on a
corner by my house) and within the day, they
replaced the light with a new one and no
problem!

Posted by K0EWS on August 3, 2014

I have tried to track down the RFI and of course determined sources in my home and turn them off or unplug them. Otherwise the RFI has been either untraceable/seemingly non directional or power line related. Nothing to pin on neighbors. But we are in a losing battle everywhere but perhaps rural areas. Millions of tiny noise makers are shipped from around the world each year to overwhelm our efforts at quiet. Sort of like CB became an overwhelming problem, apparently the regulators just give up at some point. With piecemeal actions taken on odds and ends of loud complaints occasionally.

Posted by W8AAZ on August 3, 2014

I fixed it myself
Some years ago my neighbor had mis-wired his cable connection so that it was feeding an old antenna on the roof. Since one of the cable channels covers the same freq as the local repeater output, I received plenty of noise on 2M. He let me correct the wiring problem in addition to fixing some F-connectors that had bad shield connections. My noise was gone and his TV reception improved. Since then he's called me for advice on electrical problems several times.

Posted by AA4PB on August 3, 2014

Hams are gentlemen
VE3CUI: I am not sniping at you. I appreciate the value of your survey.

I offered constructive criticism in regard to one additional option. My point was as I wrote on Aug 1 - Fortunately, MANY TIMES you can take care of the problem yourself.

I will never understand why you insist that I state that you can ALWAYS TAKE care of the problem yourself. No reasonable person would take that position.

I will write no more on this, yet I remain puzzled as to why you misread my comment and see me as hostile to your submission.

I wish you the best in ham radio and may you continue for many years to come to find pleasure in this endeavor. de Ray Mullin, ai2ia

Posted by AI2IA on August 3, 2014

The Final Say, AI2IA
I leave the last word to you, AI2IA, because I can see this
forum---with its otherwise noble intents---degenerating
into a "p'ing contest" with back & forth snipes between the
two us, otherwise...

Posted by VE3CUI on August 3, 2014

Trouble reading
Evidently, VE3CUI, you do have trouble with reading comprehension. On August 1st I actually said the following:
"Should have included "I took care of the problem myself."
As a choice you should have included that as an option. You know, it is indeed possible to take care of the problem yourself, in some instances. Sadly, you can do all sorts of things, but you cannot change what I wrote and claim that I wrote it. Just accept the fact that you overlooked an option. Live with that and move on. Nobody's perfect.

Posted by AI2IA on August 3, 2014

Hands Off Approach
I would suggest that once you identify an source of RFI, and contact the offending party, you SUGGEST possible fixes but NEVER touch any piece of equipment that they own. If you do, you will own any future problems that may occur with it.

Posted by KG4RUL on August 3, 2014

Say What, AI2IA...?
"...Should have included 'I took care of the problem myself'..."
what you said on 1st August.

"...I never said that. What I said was 'Fortunately, many times
you can take care of the problem yourself'..." what you said
on 2nd August.

Read your own postings---carefully, as you say---for
yourself.

Posted by VE3CUI on August 3, 2014


Another very likely candidate for an answer would have
been....the source of the RFI was never located.

Posted by K7AAT on August 2, 2014

Read carefully
You cannot agree with me that "it is always nice to take care of the problem yourself." I never said that. What I said was "Fortunately, many times you can take care of the problem yourself."

I read your survey question carefully, and my criticism was meant to be constructive. Please read my comment carefully, and you will see the limitation that I placed on my words. Vy 73, de Ray, AI2IA

Posted by AI2IA on August 2, 2014

To AI2IA...
Unfortunately, there are only 7 possible responses to any
& all queries posed on this forum...!

I agree with you, though, that it's ALWAYS nice to "take
care of the problem yourself"---but that isn't always
possible...there is, for instance, one story that I'm aware
of, involving a Stateside Ham whose untoward neighbour
had an illegal marijuana grow-op in his residence: and the
extensive 24-7 UV lighting therein caused no end of grief
to Amateur radio operations.

What do you do in instances like that...? The LAST thing
any scofflaw would probably want to see is some eager-
beaver Johnny Ham Radio knocking at his front door,
proclaiming, "Hi! I'm here to HELP you...!"

Posted by VE3CUI on August 2, 2014

Missing choice
Should have included "I took care of the problem myself."
Also the use of "guilty party" is often not quite fair since many folks are completely unaware that their appliance is causing interference to radio amateurs. Often they are the same well meaning folks who think that radio amateurs are CB hobby people.
Fortunately, many times you can take care of the problem yourself.

Posted by AI2IA on August 1, 2014

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