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Survey Question
How many people have you personally motivated enough about Amateur Radio for them to study and earn a license?
  Posted: Jul 19, 2016   (612 votes, 24 comments) by KA2VTI

  10 or more
    (612 votes, 24 comments)

Survey Results
1 28% (172)
2 19% (114)
3-5 31% (188)
6-10 9% (53)
10 or more 14% (85)

Survey Comments
Influencing people to become FCC licensed amateur operators.
I wish I could say more than myself and some family. I am not that old, but I do have a library of electronics, electrical engineering, electrical, chemistry, mechanical, aviation, steam, & other engineering books dating back 150+ years, including a lot of electronics periodicals. At one time the FCC had budgeted some money to pay hams to police the airways. Now the airways are so filled with profit generating traffic the FCC could care less what happens on the amateur bands, unless a ham costs some corporation money. I just became "legal" earlier this year. I passed the technician, and general class the first night, no studying. I repair this stuff, and build custom guitars, guitar amplifiers, guitar effects, synthesizer modules, etc. including RF repairs & projects, for ham radio. I know Morse, and used it with simplex field phones working at various facilities where 2 way radio transmissions are forbidden. When the wires got run over by 3000 hand trucks and 1900 golf carts Morse would still work, and having another employee who knew Morse communicating with me kept us moving along with cable pulls while new wire was strung along the floor. With the internet & video games, the only people interested in becoming hams seem to be preppers, with whom, some I like and some (most) I think are jerks. They seem to love the repeaters on VHF/UHF and somehow think those repeaters magically keep running with no financial input. 9 weeks after I passed the general, I made time to retake the extra class and passed. It was not the same club I tested for general, and they immediately wanted me to take the VE test. They were all such gracious old people, I will probably get my VE certification, and help them out. They all have many more years behind them, than they do ahead of them. One is wheel chair bound, and another suffered a stroke, so they can use some younger blood. I have loved everything electronic since age 4 or 5. I built a crystal set at age 6. When I was 13 I was already working with 500 volt B+ tube amps, and setting up $2000 guitars. By the age of 16 I was working on Wili Studer, Ampex, Uher, & other studio gear, with 6 figure price tags. I wound up working as an electrician on everything from high end retail shops to heavy industrial facilities, specializing in PLC, automation, relay logic, distribution, and even some RTVB work. I was not too excited to wire office buildings, and the ONLY residential I did was either federally funded housing, or homes for the super rich. Normal residential work did not pay enough for me to even show up, but the projects paid Bacon Davis wages, and rich people, well, one of them had a ham station that would make anyone drool. He also had an underground rifle range, off the side of his radio shack. I loved that kind of work. KTUF, owned by Buck Owens, was another fun job. I can't go run all over & wrestle 750KCMil wire, and I do really miss the $2500 a week pay. The 60-100 hour weeks, not so much, but I stay that busy without work. I almost blew my leg off with 7200 volts. Now I am back playing with it again, working on a new linear amp. I think people now want "Instant Gratification" and are not much into working for a good result, or working to get a great circuit design. Speaking of broadcasting for profit, we have cell phones, broadcast radio & TV, business radios, satellite TV, etc. The government showed up at the transmitters on South Mountain in force to make sure the Super Bowl broadcast would not be sabotaged. It was ridiculous to see that many feds swarming around the towers. They probably had more people up there than they did down at the stadium. $14,000,000 for a 30 second ad, oh you bet they protected that! They could give a rat's behind what happens on the amateur bands, though. So long as we don't encroach on someone's money making, they really don't care. Want to hear really salty language? Go listen to 11 meters! I remember when 11 meters was fairly free of foul language, and I remember some guys with some radio direction finding gear almost beating a friend of mine to a frothy pulp, over something he did on the 11 meter band. I think he was jamming a channel. He never would tell me. I honestly understand that truckers who travel in some remote mountainous areas may actually NEED 40, 50 or 100 watts so I won't preach that 4 watt AM, 12 watt SSB stuff. If I am headed up La Manga pass and a May snow storm hits, I may find myself using 11 meters @ 75 watts to find out if I am driving toward my death or not. Aside from that, I stay pretty far away from CB most of the time. It is a good way to get real time road conditions though. I use digital modes, CW, and phone. I use an old 1946 Vibroplex bug or a straight key, and make my own magnetic floating iambic keys, using marble or granite trophy bases, machined brass, old WECo contacts off old switchboard switches, and WD pick guard materials for guitars. I just bought an old oven for powder coating my project boxes, and am making 5/8" thick wrinkle or hammertone coated bases that look like antique bugs. Black hammertone mixed with satin black looks like Japan finish. There are so many aspects of this hobby to get into, from iambic keys, to antennas, to audio processors, DSP filters, linear amps, sound card interfaces, contesting, EME, satellites, weather spotting etc. ad infinum. A scant, I suppose more than a few of my closer circle of friends who build guitar amplifiers, and hi fis, also are active in amateur radio or have been so in the past. Those who are the best usually do have some amateur or professional RF experience.

Posted by KI7AQJ on August 19, 2016

Being a good HAM important!
I wanted to be a HAM since I was 11 years old and new there
were HAMs. Got my General when I was 40 an my tech.some
years before have had a LOVE of radio most of my life it has
always been my friend thank God. Think the changing
requirements was a good thing, a lot more HAMs now, HAM
radio will advance HAM radio in do time, an thats a good thing!

Posted by KB6HRT on August 12, 2016

After receiving my Extra, I started teaching a couple of classes (out of 10) for the Technician curriculum. This led to my wife attending the classes that I taught and she eventually got her Technician. I then got my son-in-law and granddaughter to attend the classes and helped her prepare for, and pass her Technician test at 11 years old. I met a fellow Roadtrek enthusiast and told him about the classes and helped him get his Technician license. I then helped my wife study and pass the General test.

Posted by AF8JC on August 10, 2016

1) Far too many grumpy impatient old men who look down upon those who did not learn code. Code does not promise good radio discipline and the lack of code knowledge does not equate to a lack of radio discipline. Discipline is what WE bring to the hobby and I dare say we may need to self-regulate and enforce discipline to bring this hobby back to the respect it enjoyed in the 60's and before.

2)Do we really promote the emergency communications aspect to the extent we should? The youth of America probably get the "Zombie" apocalypse scenario. Even FEMA has used the idea of the zombie apocalypse to emphasize how families should prepare. In a bygone era we gave our youth the straight scoop and taught them how to prepare. The zombie apocalypse is the next major solar storm that knocks out everything not hardened against such an event, which by the way is pretty much everything. Happened in the 1800's, will happen again.

So have some patience and teach those who even half way listen. It would be time better spent than that expended on the next contest.

And for those who use profanity on the air, shove a pin through their coax. Or better still, use your skills to build a Tesla lightning generator in the back of your pickup truck and park it adjacent to their antenna.



Posted by KD0FIR on August 8, 2016

Bad ham conduct:
If hams are doing bad conduct it should be
the opportunity for hams to let ARRL know
for enforcement. Maybe I am isolated, but
I almost never hear anything out of place
other than bootlegged callsigns. The two
meter repeater I also often use also traps
audio on the Internet for a month and/or
dumps the repeater when there are
bootlegged call signs. I have been a ham
since 1971. I have no regrets. I stay
away from questionable types when I can.
Another reason to operate digital modes.

Posted by K0IC on August 8, 2016

Not too interested any more
We have a club... its getting less and
less members. No new young hams anymore
just old retired folks seem to be going
after a license.
The youth of today are not into ham radio.
Cell phones, texting, playing games seems
to be more their interest. The ones that
do get some training and get a license
report back that they don't want to get on
after listening to all the crude and $%^&
talking that goes on the ham bands. One
said his parents overheard some of the
idiots bantering and took the radio out to
the garage sale. They didn't want their
daughter to be exposed to the type of
people who are cursing,swearing and under
influance on the ham bands.
Its a shame that the FCC hasn't any brass
and gets rid of these boneheads. Seems
that one person just keeps going on and on
and on even without a license renewal.
Seems the FCC is going the same way that
the CB band went years ago. No
enforcement of the laws and rules and
leave it up to the ARRL to professionally
try and reason with hams to be good folks.
We know that is not working... huh.

So until things clean up. We don't
promote ham radio as much more than a
communicators band.
CW is what I still try and promote but the
interest of working to learn it just isn't
their for the youth.

Posted by BOYSCLUBRADIO on August 8, 2016

Never tried to get anyone interested in radio especially CW which is the mode I operate -I can't imagine any of my friends or family having the fortitude to try and learn CW-or even attempt to want to listen to a SSB conversation.

I don't think any of them even know I am an amateur radio operator-never came up in conversation.

Posted by K2MMO on August 2, 2016

ZERO was not a given choice because that is what would of gotten the most votes!!!

Posted by N0YG on July 30, 2016

BSA Radio Merit Badge
I taught BSA Radio merit badge one winter camp about ten years ago. Of the 22 boys, 11-12 stayed awake long enough to pass, of those twelve, 2 went on to get their Ticket.

Posted by AD5TD on July 27, 2016

Zero would have been my answer had it been a choice.

Posted by W7WQ on July 27, 2016

Is it possible to motivate someone who isn't

Posted by K4EZD on July 23, 2016

In 1964, 17 yrs of age, WA0FSM, stood in front of a
large class of wonderful attentive people, all my senior,
as I nervously presented the Novice class curriculum.
I was honored by their attention, acceptance and
patience. Many went on to pass the local Federal exam
session at the Wichita KG&E building.
Now at 70, I look back with a smile and silently thank all
those "students" who helped me grow up!
Now, a little over two years back in the HAM world as an
Extra W5GLO, I set in the local club meeting in awe, at
the knowledge and wisdom of my Elmers who have
grown with the changes, and continued learning! Life is
short, find joy in the way things are today. 73's, Marv

Posted by W5GLO on July 21, 2016

Taught at Schools
I had introduced to many people, young and old
(Over 40 years).. Not only did many passed the Ham
licenses, in many cases launched their career....!
(In Telecoms)

Great Hobby



Posted by NN2X on July 21, 2016

Living here in the Pacific Northwest with the Cascadia Subduction Zone potential to slip at any time, I find a lot more interest in people of all ages to get a ham license for emergency communications ... and many of these show an added interest in ARES and RACES operations locally.

Posted by K7AAT on July 20, 2016

I have found that the people I have drawn into ham radio over the years have had various reasons for getting into the hobby, but they all had an interest in socializing. A good teacher has an ability to inspire curiosity and exploration. They draw people to what is being taught or exampled. By the general tenor of most of the posts here, I wouldn't be too drawn or interested with the 'sour grapes' attitude either. While negatives will always be present, I choose to see the positives in people and inspire them. I wish I didn't have to explain why such a hobby like ham radio that is supposed to be ambassadorial in nature has such lemon suckers and critics...

Posted by KF8HW on July 20, 2016

Goose egg
I echo the comments by KB2HSH and W4KVW. I have exposed a few to the hobby, some find it interesting until discovering they have to study and take an "exam", then they can't run away fast enough. When CW was still a requirement, NOBODY was interested. The few who showed slight interest were hard-core CB'ers who I figured would be a detriment to the hobby so never "recruited" them. People today want it handed to them for no effort on their part, even then, I bet they would not stay in the hobby for long.

Posted by LONESTRANGER on July 20, 2016

Goose egg
I echo the comments by KB2HSH and W4KVW. I have exposed a few to the hobby, some find it interesting until discovering they have to study and take an "exam", then they can't run away fast enough. When CW was still a requirement, NOBODY was interested. The few who showed slight interest were hard-core CB'ers who I figured would be a detriment to the hobby so never "recruited" them. People today want it handed to them for no effort on their part, even then, I bet they would not stay in the hobby for long.

Posted by LONESTRANGER on July 20, 2016

Kind of a waste for me.
Back when a general or above could
administer a 'by mail' test I supplied
some great code tapes and helped with the
study material and gave the Novice and
Tech test(s) to about six or seven people
including my (at the time) future wife.

The of my wife's students
and my wife eventually went before the FCC
and got their Advanced tickets, much later
two got to general by finally waiting for
the 'grandfather' thing to sweep them in
(and I DO mean swept!).

The rest seem to have dropped out over
time; my wife keeps the ticket up but if
'cattle prodded' into the shack probably
would have a hard time finding the radios'
power switch.

What I'm getting at is it someone wants to
get a licence, I'd suggest they procure a
study guide and have at it but leave me

Posted by K0CBA on July 20, 2016

Motivated into Amateur Radio
Since 1994 at least 7 or 8.I know it's not a
hobby for everyone & some I know I would
never want on Amateur Radio because I know
they would not be an asset.

Posted by W4KVW on July 19, 2016

Zero Is An Option, Too...
The subject line above says it all...

Posted by VE3CUI on July 19, 2016

Today's current brand of "ham" or "is that CB?" is too stupid to understand the nuances of AMATEUR RADIO. They want "iPhone Radio", or "I don't want to STUDY radio...gimme my license for nothing".

I'm done elmering because of this stupidity.


Posted by KB2HSH on July 19, 2016

Only the ex-wife.
Nobody I show this hobby to is even remotely
interested. Most find it amusing for some
reason, or think it is CB. My ex got her
ticket to keep tabs on me lol.

Posted by WB4M on July 19, 2016

If you want to give back
If you want to give back to the amateur service, become a volunteer examiner. As a VE you can proctor tests, and you can also help out with training classes.
No you don't have to be an amateur extra. Lower grades are welcome and usually find other VE's that will encourage and help them to move up.
It is a great feeling to know that you helped to welcome new hams and upgrade others by administering the tests.

Posted by AI2IA on July 19, 2016

Zero should be an option so I picked 1 for
me. For the last 40 year I've been 100% CW
never a very motivating mode even 40 years

Posted by WY4J on July 19, 2016

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