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R.F.I.---the continuing scourge of Ham radio, be it "traditional" horizontal oscillators of TVs going back to the 40's, or the raucous din of to-day's plasma televisions, exercise equipment, lighting systems, furnaces, electric fences, power line leakages, AD NAUSEAM. How have YOU handled cases where somebody's electric contraption seriously hampered YOUR on-the-air activities...?
  Posted: Jul 31, 2014   (672 votes, 24 comments) by VE3CUI

  I confronted the guilty party immediately & directly, explained my circumstances, & offered my services as a tool to remedying the situation.
  I don't like confrontation, so I contacted the FCC & let THEM handle the situation.
  I operated under self-imposed "quiet hours", in order to be a good neighbour.
  I simply hit the "noise reducer" button on my transceiver, & grimaced my way through it all.
  I took the offending party to court, because they refused to co-operate with me.
  I make it a point now to operate with my linear amplifier on at all times, & give THEM a dose of RFI!
  I am very lucky in that I have never, ever experienced RFI to my operations.
    (672 votes, 24 comments)

Survey Results
I confronted the guilty party immediately & directly, explained my circumstances, & offered my services as a tool to remedying the situation. 19% (127)
I don't like confrontation, so I contacted the FCC & let THEM handle the situation. 2% (14)
I operated under self-imposed "quiet hours", in order to be a good neighbour. 6% (40)
I simply hit the "noise reducer" button on my transceiver, & grimaced my way through it all. 22% (145)
I took the offending party to court, because they refused to co-operate with me. 0% (1)
I make it a point now to operate with my linear amplifier on at all times, & give THEM a dose of RFI! 4% (26)
I am very lucky in that I have never, ever experienced RFI to my operations. 47% (319)

Survey Comments
Power Line Noise
Florida Power and Lights came out, confirmed it was their
transformer and replaced it a few days later. They seemed
truly pleased to know of the problem and gave me a private
number as a ham to call should I suspect FP&L in the future.
It is good to live in south Florida.

Posted by W6LMJ on September 2, 2014

Worked with Utility
My choice is not there!
Called my electric/gas provider DTE (Detroit). After a couple of false starts and talking (email) to one of the local hams, that worked for DTE, I was able to get to the right department and was able to talk to one of their Power Quality Technicians. Started on Sept 11, 2013 and the technician found the problem and gave me his business card and called him direct to find a couple other Power Line noises.I am keeping a log, which ends on April 16, 2014 for now...

Posted by N8XI on September 2, 2014

No Rest Fr The Wicked...!
Hi Guys,

Here, living in the country such as we do, there is STILL RFI
from the neighbours...

There's the usual electric fence noise, the failing sodium /
mercury vapour street lamp ballasts, & the guy across the
street whose treadmill machine can play havoc with my
reception on 160-meters...

Posted by VE3CUI on August 31, 2014

Fence Chargers
Being rural isn't total bliss either. Electric fences radiate for miles and I'm not sure you could removed the RFI without compromising the effectiveness of the fence. The good news: Our noise blankers handle those pulses beautifully.

Posted by K0KS on August 31, 2014

Grow houses
JK.-- But no really. The power supplies for their sodium lamps is taking the fun out of the hobby fgor me locally. From what I've read in a recent ARRL newsletter, The ARRL has even submitted a complaint to the FCC over these supplies. The streetlamps seldom need power supplies to get the required operating voltage, so they are rarely used.. But these grow houses! Good grief!! 20-over, 12 hours a day! And i wish they'd coordinate their schedules, because one goes off, the other goes on. Like N0NB stated. Towns and amateur radio don't mix. I'm movin!

Posted by N4ZAW on August 25, 2014

Moved!
Yeah, that's what I did. I left town and got out into the country where everything that potentially causes a problem is on my own property and under my control. A town is no place for the radio amateur.

Posted by N0NB on August 25, 2014

tvi
had a neighbor whose tv i was getting into on 10m. i ask him if he still had an old picture tube tv with a converter box..he said he did.
i told him if he up graded to a new flat screen it would help! he bought a new 50" flat screen. solved the problem! all the encouragement he needed! lol

Posted by WA0OFO on August 24, 2014

R.F.I.
We have always had it, it can only get worse.
Any electrical spark contains all radio
signals from light to sound. Lets get to work,
develop new antennas, a grounded one may help.
Or something responding more to current and
less to voltage. Think about it, work on it,
try it. There's a whole new realm out there,
If I
was not 91 and can't walk I'd be out in it.
Come on let's go. Bob, W5pvr

Posted by W5PVR on August 23, 2014

Support appreciated
I thank you, WB6DGN, for acknowledging my good intentions in regard to the survey from VE3CUI.

R.F.I. certainly is no laughing matter, especially for those who have had to endure it, or to get involved in correcting it.

It has been my habit over the years to hold other hams in high regard as much as possible. After all, if it were not for the other ham at the opposite end of the transmission, there would not be ham radio, only DX listening.

Posted by AI2IA on August 20, 2014

Misunderstanding?
AI2IA,
I read your original reply and found it cordial and constructive. Certainly nothing I read seemed untoward.
Its unfortunate that feelings were hurt but, other than replying as you did, not much else can be said. FWIW
Tom

Posted by WB6DGN on August 20, 2014

Misunderstanding?
AI2IA,
I read your original reply and found it cordial and constructive. Certainly nothing I read seemed untoward.
Its unfortunate that feelings were hurt but, other than replying as you did, not much else can be said. FWIW
Tom

Posted by WB6DGN on August 20, 2014

Do something else...
Most times when I encounter overwhelming RFI, I shut off the radio and do something else radio-related.
Typically I will pick up a soldering iron and work on one of my many ongoing projects on the bench, or grab a radio-related book and study.
For me, on air operating is only one part of the radio hobby and even though I experience RFI more often than I'd like, I still get plenty of time on the air.
Although my experiences with RFI are more prevalent than I'd like, it hasn't been so pervasive that I have felt I needed to investigate and address.
Merely my 2¢ and YMMV.
73 de AB1DQ/JAMES
Bedford, Mass.

Posted by AB1DQ on August 4, 2014

City
I had a terrible problem with RFI from our
street lights overloading my reciever. I was
able to trace the source down. I contacted the
city, explained that I was a ham and had traced
the noise to the offending light-pole (on a
corner by my house) and within the day, they
replaced the light with a new one and no
problem!

Posted by K0EWS on August 3, 2014

I have tried to track down the RFI and of course determined sources in my home and turn them off or unplug them. Otherwise the RFI has been either untraceable/seemingly non directional or power line related. Nothing to pin on neighbors. But we are in a losing battle everywhere but perhaps rural areas. Millions of tiny noise makers are shipped from around the world each year to overwhelm our efforts at quiet. Sort of like CB became an overwhelming problem, apparently the regulators just give up at some point. With piecemeal actions taken on odds and ends of loud complaints occasionally.

Posted by W8AAZ on August 3, 2014

I fixed it myself
Some years ago my neighbor had mis-wired his cable connection so that it was feeding an old antenna on the roof. Since one of the cable channels covers the same freq as the local repeater output, I received plenty of noise on 2M. He let me correct the wiring problem in addition to fixing some F-connectors that had bad shield connections. My noise was gone and his TV reception improved. Since then he's called me for advice on electrical problems several times.

Posted by AA4PB on August 3, 2014

Hams are gentlemen
VE3CUI: I am not sniping at you. I appreciate the value of your survey.

I offered constructive criticism in regard to one additional option. My point was as I wrote on Aug 1 - Fortunately, MANY TIMES you can take care of the problem yourself.

I will never understand why you insist that I state that you can ALWAYS TAKE care of the problem yourself. No reasonable person would take that position.

I will write no more on this, yet I remain puzzled as to why you misread my comment and see me as hostile to your submission.

I wish you the best in ham radio and may you continue for many years to come to find pleasure in this endeavor. de Ray Mullin, ai2ia

Posted by AI2IA on August 3, 2014

The Final Say, AI2IA
I leave the last word to you, AI2IA, because I can see this
forum---with its otherwise noble intents---degenerating
into a "p'ing contest" with back & forth snipes between the
two us, otherwise...

Posted by VE3CUI on August 3, 2014

Trouble reading
Evidently, VE3CUI, you do have trouble with reading comprehension. On August 1st I actually said the following:
"Should have included "I took care of the problem myself."
As a choice you should have included that as an option. You know, it is indeed possible to take care of the problem yourself, in some instances. Sadly, you can do all sorts of things, but you cannot change what I wrote and claim that I wrote it. Just accept the fact that you overlooked an option. Live with that and move on. Nobody's perfect.

Posted by AI2IA on August 3, 2014

Hands Off Approach
I would suggest that once you identify an source of RFI, and contact the offending party, you SUGGEST possible fixes but NEVER touch any piece of equipment that they own. If you do, you will own any future problems that may occur with it.

Posted by KG4RUL on August 3, 2014

Say What, AI2IA...?
"...Should have included 'I took care of the problem myself'..."
what you said on 1st August.

"...I never said that. What I said was 'Fortunately, many times
you can take care of the problem yourself'..." what you said
on 2nd August.

Read your own postings---carefully, as you say---for
yourself.

Posted by VE3CUI on August 3, 2014


Another very likely candidate for an answer would have
been....the source of the RFI was never located.

Posted by K7AAT on August 2, 2014

Read carefully
You cannot agree with me that "it is always nice to take care of the problem yourself." I never said that. What I said was "Fortunately, many times you can take care of the problem yourself."

I read your survey question carefully, and my criticism was meant to be constructive. Please read my comment carefully, and you will see the limitation that I placed on my words. Vy 73, de Ray, AI2IA

Posted by AI2IA on August 2, 2014

To AI2IA...
Unfortunately, there are only 7 possible responses to any
& all queries posed on this forum...!

I agree with you, though, that it's ALWAYS nice to "take
care of the problem yourself"---but that isn't always
possible...there is, for instance, one story that I'm aware
of, involving a Stateside Ham whose untoward neighbour
had an illegal marijuana grow-op in his residence: and the
extensive 24-7 UV lighting therein caused no end of grief
to Amateur radio operations.

What do you do in instances like that...? The LAST thing
any scofflaw would probably want to see is some eager-
beaver Johnny Ham Radio knocking at his front door,
proclaiming, "Hi! I'm here to HELP you...!"

Posted by VE3CUI on August 2, 2014

Missing choice
Should have included "I took care of the problem myself."
Also the use of "guilty party" is often not quite fair since many folks are completely unaware that their appliance is causing interference to radio amateurs. Often they are the same well meaning folks who think that radio amateurs are CB hobby people.
Fortunately, many times you can take care of the problem yourself.

Posted by AI2IA on August 1, 2014

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