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I use " thick wall copper pipe due to my " copper pipe "J"was bent in a 59 MPH wind gust last year. The " thick wall is much stronger!Theoretically, the " pipe should be slightly more broad banded but I've notmeasured any difference from " pipe "J".
Recently,I've been experimenting with the basic "J" dimensions; I have found that a 2m Jlength of 63" really enhances the 440 band operation (63"=2.5
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I experimented using a brass brazing rod. I've seen designswith the coax center conductor attached to the l element or the
NOTE: BEWARE of your heat used when soldering the SO-239 tothe "J" or the center conductor insulator in the SO-239 will melt away or gooff center!!!
(cannot obtain good VSWR on 440 but the 2m gain is outstanding - about 6dbd worth!)
SV1UI | 2020-02-21 | |
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The SIMPLE 2m Copper 'J' Antenna | ||
Hello, I built a "European" (metric) model of this antenna which seems to work fine. The construction was based on the "Alternate feed method for "copper pipe "J""", see diagram in the original article. I used 22mm diameter thin-wall copper pipe, which is common here in Greece. The dimensions are shown below: - Pipe outer diameter: 22mm - T-junction height: 56mm - Vertical element to T-junction top: 1610mm - Matching section length: 522mm (this is very critical...) - Feed wire: 2.3mm diameter The feed wire exits matching section at 118mm from bottom; the hole has been sealed using two-part epoxy resin. As I have not managed to find how to upload images onto eham, I uploaded a sketch to https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-yIOXfQQSbTe7uXpZBirYCa7YbMDjJjA/view?usp=sharing The antenna only took me a Saturday morning to put together and works remarkably well, giving great range and unmeasurably low VSWR (<1.1:1) from 144 to 146MHz. However, 1. I don't know what it does on 70cm, I don't have a rig to try it with, and 2. I am not too happy with the upward-sloping feed wire, as it brings water down to the sealed hole in the pipe. I think it would be a lot better if the hole were drilled higher up (e.g. at 175mm from the connector), so that the wire outside the hole slopes downards. Should anyone try this antenna and have answers to 1. and 2. above, I would be very happy if they'd inform me! Thanks to N6JSX, WD8LLN and KC8NSY for a very useful and super-simple-to-build antenna! Paul, SV1UI |
N6JSX | 2003-05-03 | |
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I've been messing around with my J design making a version of it for my car. I found an improvement that can be made on the copper pipe J SO-239 & brass rod connections. Flip it around so that the SO-239 is soldered to the main element and the brass rod solders to the 19" matching element. This improved my 440 band VSWR. Also I found a more optimal placement dimension instead of 3.75" put it at 3.5". I've received numerious "thank you's" from many many HAMs that have built this "SIMPLE" J antenna. They love it and it operates better than a comperable store bought. I'm working on a new article for making a dual band J for your car. I'm now testing it and it works fantastic increased my vehicle range by ~30 miles from a dual band mag mount! |
KC0GNH | 2002-08-30 | |
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The SIMPLE 2m Copper 'J' Antenna - modified yet ag | ||
I've modifed the design using the original dimensions, but added an 3" stub making it an "abbreviated 'H'". The 3" stub has a panel-mount SO-239 through a 3/4" copper cap. The center connector is soldered to a 12 gauge piece of insulated copper wire which feeds up through the matching stub. I drilled a small hole in the matching stub large enough for a rubber grommet through which I passed the wire which is eventually soldered into a small hole in the main element. The whole thing can be assembled and soldered with absolutely NO heat-related damage to the insulator in the SO-239 by using a simple process. There's a logical order of assembly with this version in which the radiator is soldered to the first "T", then its cap is soldered on to give a 63" length as shown in the article. The stub joining the "T"s is soldered to the first "T", then the second "T" is soldered to the stub. Then the 12ga wire is soldered to the bare SO-239 and set aside to cool. Drill the cap for the "abbreviated H" to accommodate the SO-239. Insert the nut for the SO-239 into the cap and jam it in place with the 3" stub. Solder the drilled cap to the stub and the stub to the bottom side of the second "T", and set it all aside to cool. Liberally coat the solder joint on the back of the SO-239 with some clear silicone, and squirt a liberal amount of silicone into the inside of the drilled cap. Gently push the 12ga wire through this silicone until it emerges from the other end of the second "T". Seat the SO-239 into the captive nut inside the drilled cap and screw it in tightly. Bend the 12ga wire to keep it centered in the second "T". Squirt more silicone down into the second "T" to insulate the back of the SO-239 and keep the 12ga wire pretty much centered in the tube. Place the reflector (19" piece) into the upper end of the second "T" and mark off 3.75" as shown in the article. Drill the reflector at that point for a rubber grommet, but don't insert the grommet yet. Bend the tip of the 12ga wire to slide through the just-drilled hole in the reflector and seat the reflector into the second "T", and solder it this time, being careful to not let the insulation on the 12ga wire come in contact with the hot copper. When it has cooled, slide the grommet over the 12ga wire and seat it into the hole. Drill a small hole in the radiator opposite the point where the 12ga wire emerges from the reflector. Bend the 12ga wire to be perpendicular to the radiator and cut just enough insulation off it to keep the wire straight, yet insulated to the point where it just will touch the radiator and cut the wire 1/2" longer than that. Insert the bare end of the 12ga wire into the hole and solder it there, being careful to not scorch or burn the insulation on the wire. Now solder the cap on the top of the reflector to make it 19" as in the article. I chose to use most of the remaining copper tube as a mount tube, cut so the whole antenna is 7' long overall which will allow its use inside a normal 8' ceiling room, if desired, and soldered a 3/4" female junction on the bottom of that to allow it to be screwed onto a standard 3/4" pipe nipple which can in turn be screwed into a flange which is screwed to a floor or wall (with an elbow). Once everything has cooled, carefully coat the point where the SO-239 meets the cap with silicone. Let it all set up overnight, and you're good to go. The SWR readings on 2m and 70cm are even better than the original readings in the article. |
KB3FIO | 2001-10-03 | |
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RE: The SIMPLE 2m Copper 'J' Antenna | ||
Would any of the dimensions of this design change if you used 1/2 copper? If so, how? Reply to a comment by : W4SDL on 2001-09-26 "J Pole " is incorrect. "J " antenna is the fundamental correct designation. The "J pole " was a flag plole with several "J" antennas on different bands, written in QST several years ago. Reply to a comment by : KN4OO on 2001-09-25 Finally a "J" pole that actually works. I stepped out on to the patio and built this antenna and the results were amazing I can now get into repeaters that were almost impossible before....cool |
W4SDL | 2001-09-26 | |
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"J Pole " is incorrect. "J " antenna is the fundamental correct designation. The "J pole " was a flag plole with several "J" antennas on different bands, written in QST several years ago. Reply to a comment by : KN4OO on 2001-09-25 Finally a "J" pole that actually works. I stepped out on to the patio and built this antenna and the results were amazing I can now get into repeaters that were almost impossible before....cool |
W4SDL | 2001-09-26 | |
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The SIMPLE 2m Copper 'J' Antenna | ||
I have built and researched the "J" antenna.Built with same materials by the hundreds. The SCATA system here is using them all over the city. I use a TV balun ( 75 to 300 ohm type) to complete the unbalance to balance termination. This worked all way up to thru 70 cm and 900 mhz too. For vehicles I use a CB whip with AL clothes line wire and aluminum block to hold the 1/4 wave stub.Placing the array above the roof level it has unobstructed pattern with glass fiber (box) tape 4" down to support the open end keeping it relatively parallel in the wind. This antenna was the HF wire antenna with a heavy weight on the far end used on the Zeppelin Air Ships, thus keeping the high voltage end away from the flamable gas bag. |
KN4OO | 2001-09-25 | |
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The SIMPLE 2m Copper 'J' Antenna | ||
Finally a "J" pole that actually works. I stepped out on to the patio and built this antenna and the results were amazing I can now get into repeaters that were almost impossible before....cool |
N6JSX | 2001-09-22 | |
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Hi The problem with using 3/4" for the ARES feed method is the SO-259 attachment. It fits well on 1/2" copper pipe but is really sloppy on 3/4" copper pipe. The dimensions are critical for this feed method too. FYI for all - if you would like a copy of my MS Word .doc file zipped up let me know. The graphics are far better. The posting of my article on eHAM made my drawings very fuzzy and added a gray background making it more difficult to visualize. Email me a request and I'll email the file - the file size is about 700K zipped. I'm in the process of creating a 220 J article for eHAM - should have that done in a few weeks. Hope you all liked this one - I got more if you want them. 73, Kuby, N6JSX /8 N6JSX@yahoo.com Reply to a comment by : KE1U on 2001-09-22 Has anyone tried the ARES design with 3/4 inch copper pipe, rather than 1/2 inch? That looks like a great idea. |
KE1U | 2001-09-22 | |
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Has anyone tried the ARES design with 3/4 inch copper pipe, rather than 1/2 inch? That looks like a great idea. |
KE4SKY | 2001-09-20 | |
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A very nice, practical treatment of the J-Pole antenna. With your permission, I would like to use this as a handout for Virginia RACES. 73 de KE4SKY Virginia State RACES Training Officer Reply to a comment by : N3JIY on 2001-09-18 It looks very sturdy. Thank you for explaining how to make it. I have a propane torch. Watch out! Are you able to open the hatch on the back of your station wagon? Reply to a comment by : KC9AAI on 2001-09-18 Dale, I constructed one of these earlier this summer with great success. I soldered the coax directly to the antenna and covered the exposed areas with Plasti-dip. I wasn't real comfortable with the connection though. Based on your posting, I'm going to change mine over to the ARES design. Thanks for the article! Carl KC9AAI |
N3JIY | 2001-09-18 | |
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RE: The SIMPLE 2m Copper 'J' Antenna | ||
It looks very sturdy. Thank you for explaining how to make it. I have a propane torch. Watch out! Are you able to open the hatch on the back of your station wagon? Reply to a comment by : KC9AAI on 2001-09-18 Dale, I constructed one of these earlier this summer with great success. I soldered the coax directly to the antenna and covered the exposed areas with Plasti-dip. I wasn't real comfortable with the connection though. Based on your posting, I'm going to change mine over to the ARES design. Thanks for the article! Carl KC9AAI |
KC9AAI | 2001-09-18 | |
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Dale, I constructed one of these earlier this summer with great success. I soldered the coax directly to the antenna and covered the exposed areas with Plasti-dip. I wasn't real comfortable with the connection though. Based on your posting, I'm going to change mine over to the ARES design. Thanks for the article! Carl KC9AAI |
AD7DB | 2001-09-18 | |
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RE: James-Pole Antennas | ||
Good article! For those of you who'd still like to just buy one rather than build one, contact James Pike KB6WHT, of Apple Valley CA. He builds these and sells them, and they are excellent quality. His website is at "www.jamespole.net". Dave AD7DB Reply to a comment by : K7LA on 2001-09-18 An outstanding article. I have constructed many J-antennas along this line and have used stainless steel rod with lucite braces for a bicycle mobile application obtaining superb results. Usually 1.5-2.5 watts is all I need to full quiet the area repeaters. No ground plane is required with the built-in counterpoise and you get great audio reports. This type of antenna is great for emergency and battery operations. I urge all Technician hams to construct one of these antennas and put a little fun into your hobby, inexpensively! |
K7LA | 2001-09-18 | |
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An outstanding article. I have constructed many J-antennas along this line and have used stainless steel rod with lucite braces for a bicycle mobile application obtaining superb results. Usually 1.5-2.5 watts is all I need to full quiet the area repeaters. No ground plane is required with the built-in counterpoise and you get great audio reports. This type of antenna is great for emergency and battery operations. I urge all Technician hams to construct one of these antennas and put a little fun into your hobby, inexpensively! |
KE5GK | 2001-09-18 | |
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We need more thoughtful postings like this one. Good Job! |
KB9VBR | 2001-09-18 | |
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The SIMPLE 2m Copper 'J' Antenna | ||
The J is a great antenna. While I haven't built this particular J-Pole, I've constructed several using similiar plans. Every few monthes a group of us get together, invite the new hams and have an antenna party. Not only do the new people learn a little antenna theory, but go home with a great first antenna. They also get some practical plumbing experience that may come in handy some day. Michael KB9VBR |