Introduction:
As with many senior citizens, I am morbidly fearful that I may need to move to a care facility, HOA community or other place where it might be difficult to enjoy my ham radio hobby. This has led me to preoccupation with portable antennas in general and small magnetic loops in particular. Recently I acquired a model HF-319 SignalLoop as described on http://www.antennas4less.com It is very light, easy to put together, moderate cost, and -- most important of all -- within 10 minutes of receiving my antenna, I made a contact from inside a room that has aluminum siding. I have no doubt that this antenna works under portable ultrastealth conditions.
My main problem, as forewarned in the instructions, is that the tuning is very "touchy." Tuning uses a simple knob that covers rather large ranges ( 3 to 5 and 5 to 19 megahertz) over about 180 degrees of rotation for each range. Furthermore, the tuning seemed rather sensitive to proximity of my hand, and the rotation feels somewhat loose. For me, personally, tuning was specially tough because of poor sensation and coordination in my fingers
Disclaimer:
I am sure you have seen the message, "Your mileage may vary." Please ignore any illusion of high precision that may be implied in this article. For example, a small difference in the alignment of the extension shaft with the tuning capacitor could result in a large offset between my vernier settings and those you might find. Similarly, I have been quite extravagant in employing decimal places. I think I could have left out a large part of the math, but I don't know which part. Throughout this article, I use the term, "Vernier," even though it does not have a vernier scale. On the other hand, that is how the dial is described in its packaging and advertising. I suppose I can hide behind a secondary definition, " small auxiliary device used with a main device to obtain fine adjustment" (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vernier)
Construction:
Among my DIY treasures, I had a Philmore S38 Vernier Control Knob (available from Amazon) and I decided to try it as a way to mitigate my tuning difficulty. This dial provides an eight to one ratio and has a 0 to 100 unit calibrated dial over the 180 degree rotation of the controlled shaft. Thus one division on the dial is roughly equivalent to 1.8 degrees of shaft rotation with 12.5 degrees of knob rotation. The feel is firm with no discernable backlash. I did not want to dig into the guts of the tuning box or make any irreversible changes. At the same time, I wanted to add a moderate amount of isolation from my hand. My "design" uses a section of 1/4" Plexiglas rod and a length of 1/4" ID polyethylene tubing as a coupling to make an extension between the vernier dial and the shaft of the tuner variable capacitor. Similarly, pieces of the same 1/4" Plexiglas rod form two standoffs as shown in the pictures. Small self tapping screws through the two holes in the vernier knob housing enter holes drilled into one end of each standoff. The other end is secured to the front of the tuning box with methylmethacrylate cement. I don't believe that the exact dimensions are critical. With the three points of support, the dial feels very stable and steady.
Initial Experiment:
The antenna was set up with a four foot length of co-ax cable to an antenna analyzer (Comet CAA 500). For both the lower (5-9 MHZ) and upper (9-19 MHZ) ranges of the antenna, the vernier dial was set in a pseudorandom way to the eleven major calibration marks (0, 10, 20....100). These settings were not in any intentional order. For each range, two readings at each major mark were taken. A data point ("sweet spot") was recorded for a stable dip in standing wave ratio (SWR) with my hands off the antenna analyzer and with standing wave ratio (SWR) lower than 1.2:1, and with the impedance indicated to be close (+/- 2 ohms) to 50 Ohms. The results of this experiment are shown in the following figures:
Detailed Charts for Ham bands:
For the 75/80 meter and 40 meter bands, random sequences of 20 points each using the major and minor divisions of the vernier dial over the range of frequencies in that band, as predicted from the initial data. A similar process was followqed; that is, the vernier dial was set and the data was plotted, including the parameters of the linear trend lines, as shown below:
The slopes and intercepts for the least-squares trend lines were then used to generate a tuning chart, as shown below. For 60, 30, 20, and 17 meters; the bands are covered over only a very few vernier dial divisions, so no interpolation was deemed practical. However, these are also included in the following tuning chart.
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| Frequency | Dial Setting |
| Band | Dial Setting |
| 3.50 | 65.1 |
| 7.00 | 56.1 |
| 60 Meters | 23-26 |
| 3.53 | 65.7 |
| 7.02 | 56.3 |
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| 3.55 | 66.4 |
| 7.03 | 56.5 |
| 30 Meters | 80-81 |
| 3.58 | 67.1 |
| 7.05 | 56.7 |
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| 3.60 | 67.7 |
| 7.06 | 56.9 |
| 20 Meters | 93-94 |
| 3.63 | 68.4 |
| 7.08 | 57.1 |
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| 3.65 | 69.0 |
| 7.09 | 57.3 |
| 17 Meters | 99-100 |
| 3.68 | 69.7 |
| 7.11 | 57.5 |
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| 3.70 | 70.4 |
| 7.12 | 57.7 |
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| 3.73 | 71.0 |
| 7.14 | 57.9 |
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| 3.75 | 71.7 |
| 7.15 | 58.1 |
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| 3.78 | 72.3 |
| 7.17 | 58.3 |
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| 3.80 | 73.0 |
| 7.18 | 58.5 |
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| 3.83 | 73.7 |
| 7.20 | 58.7 |
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| 3.85 | 74.3 |
| 7.21 | 59.0 |
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| 3.88 | 75.0 |
| 7.23 | 59.2 |
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| 3.90 | 75.6 |
| 7.24 | 59.4 |
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| 3.93 | 76.3 |
| 7.25 | 59.6 |
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| 3.95 | 77.0 |
| 7.27 | 59.8 |
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| 3.98 | 77.6 |
| 7.28 | 60.0 |
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| 4.00 | 78.3 |
| 7.30 | 60.2 |
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Further Observations:
The magloop and tuning chart were used on numerous (well, at least 8 so far) occasions with my KX3 radio. On each occasion, the antenna had been disassembled and then reassembled. Once a target frequency was set on the radio, the vernier dial of the magloop was set to approximate the closest corresponding value in the chart. On all such occasions (so far) the SWR reading on the radio was less than 2:1 and could be adjusted lower within one or two vernier divisions.
Conclusions:
From these rather limited experiments, it seems that the relationship between the vernier dial readings and the frequencies at which the SWR dip was seen was stable and follows a regular monotonic curvilinear relationship. Another observation is that the tuning range for each of the amateur radio bands is quite narrow; such that the added "band spread" afforded by the vernier is very useful.
K7LZR | 2020-02-19 | |
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The Old Man and the Magloop | ||
".....3.1415 Feet which gives a loop diameter of 1 foot ;-) Probably can use 3 to 4 foot of coax to get 15-10 meters....." Our HF-319 antenna is not of conventional design and so results with substantially shorter or longer loop lengths will be unpredictable. Such variations have not yet been formally tested here at our lab but it is planned. |
KJ6ZH | 2020-02-19 | |
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Re: The Old Man and the Magloop | ||
3.1415 Feet which gives a loop diameter of 1 foot ;-) Probably can use 3 to 4 foot of coax to get 15-10 meters. Since there are no sunspots, I am not using this on mine at this time. Reply to a comment by : AG7TX on 2020-02-18 What length of coax did you choose to get 10m and 15m with this antenna? Thanks! Reply to a comment by : KJ6ZH on 2020-01-08 Nice job on the article. Have the same loop and also added the same Vernier (but with shorter standoffs) about a year ago. Was a huge improvement for tuning and highly recommend this mod. I use a second, shorter coax for the loop to get 15-10 meter coverage. Agree that this is a nice, highly portable antenna that easily fits into a laptop case with my mcHF clone, coax, cw key, power supply and LiON battery for traveling. Also added a VX-6R HT and everything constitutes a "Shack in a Pack" Reply to a comment by : W0WCA on 2020-01-07 Well done and well written. Well done on the addition of the "real" Verner dial and your standoff. I did not know that the Verner dials were still available and so I am glad to have read your piece. Good price on the loop antenna but would be needing something that can handle .1 kw. |
AG7TX | 2020-02-18 | |
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Re: The Old Man and the Magloop | ||
What length of coax did you choose to get 10m and 15m with this antenna? Thanks! Reply to a comment by : KJ6ZH on 2020-01-08 Nice job on the article. Have the same loop and also added the same Vernier (but with shorter standoffs) about a year ago. Was a huge improvement for tuning and highly recommend this mod. I use a second, shorter coax for the loop to get 15-10 meter coverage. Agree that this is a nice, highly portable antenna that easily fits into a laptop case with my mcHF clone, coax, cw key, power supply and LiON battery for traveling. Also added a VX-6R HT and everything constitutes a "Shack in a Pack" Reply to a comment by : W0WCA on 2020-01-07 Well done and well written. Well done on the addition of the "real" Verner dial and your standoff. I did not know that the Verner dials were still available and so I am glad to have read your piece. Good price on the loop antenna but would be needing something that can handle .1 kw. |
K7LZR | 2020-02-04 | |
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Re: The Old Man and the Magloop | ||
Our model HF-319 Magnetic Loop uses semi-rigid direct burial RG-11/U for its loop cable. There is 100% aluminum coverage on the outer shell - and it is thick - and so it is electrically equivalent to 1/2" aluminum pipe. Although the antenna was originally designed with the hiker/camper etc. in mind, it can of course be used in other places. Homebrew magnetic loop antennas are easy to build and generally work great if one can find & buy parts, and do a good job of designing & building. But there are many who do not have the desire, time, or skill to build a good quality & effective unit, and while many commercial units are of good quality they are also very expensive. The HF-319 is priced much lower in order to (hopefully) be an affordable alternative. Reply to a comment by : W9SUN on 2020-02-04 Another thing that you could generally use would be if you had a pickup truck of course with no topper on it because that would be somewhat interesting to try and if you wanted to go camping or set up at a park or something of that sort it would be very useful to put your station on the air. Reply to a comment by : W3UEC on 2020-01-15 You said: " I can see the advantage of this construction for reducing the effect of hand capacitance, but for all the work of calibrating the dial isn't it easier to just tune for maximum receive noise? That should be very close to the point of low SWR." (1) Adding the "bandspread" also would make the search for the maximum receive noise more tedious. (2) When I bought my current car, the salesman convinced me that I really needed a sunroof. I had a thought (fantasy) of putting an antenna up through the sunroof (with the mast in the coffee holder). To do this with the magloop, it seemed useful to be able to tune it in advance, before sticking it up through the sunroof. Once weather gets better, I will know how it goes. :-} Who knows? Maybe another article. 73 de W3UEC Reply to a comment by : WB0OEW on 2020-01-15 Good article and information, thank you. I can see the advantage of this construction for reducing the effect of hand capacitance, but for all the work of calibrating the dial isn't it easier to just tune for maximum receive noise? That should be very close to the point of low SWR. |
W9SUN | 2020-02-04 | |
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Re: The Old Man and the Magloop | ||
Another thing that you could generally use would be if you had a pickup truck of course with no topper on it because that would be somewhat interesting to try and if you wanted to go camping or set up at a park or something of that sort it would be very useful to put your station on the air. Reply to a comment by : W3UEC on 2020-01-15 You said: " I can see the advantage of this construction for reducing the effect of hand capacitance, but for all the work of calibrating the dial isn't it easier to just tune for maximum receive noise? That should be very close to the point of low SWR." (1) Adding the "bandspread" also would make the search for the maximum receive noise more tedious. (2) When I bought my current car, the salesman convinced me that I really needed a sunroof. I had a thought (fantasy) of putting an antenna up through the sunroof (with the mast in the coffee holder). To do this with the magloop, it seemed useful to be able to tune it in advance, before sticking it up through the sunroof. Once weather gets better, I will know how it goes. :-} Who knows? Maybe another article. 73 de W3UEC Reply to a comment by : WB0OEW on 2020-01-15 Good article and information, thank you. I can see the advantage of this construction for reducing the effect of hand capacitance, but for all the work of calibrating the dial isn't it easier to just tune for maximum receive noise? That should be very close to the point of low SWR. |
W9SUN | 2020-02-04 | |
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The Old Man and the Magloop | ||
Magnetic loops are terrific antennas as I've been in limited space situations before at various times during my ham career or did some moving around here and there because of work or other requirements. What's nice about an HF Magnetic Loop is that you can construct one for a pretty small investment and the biggest issue is getting a good tuning capacitor either vacuum variable or a traditional capacitor. I've made several of them out of 1/2 inch tubing as well as 3/4 inch tubing for better efficiency especially anything from 20 meters through 15 meters. They do get a bit large in size if you try to get 75 percent efficiency on the 80, 60, 40 meter bands. Someday I definitely am going to try obtaining a 60 foot length of copper tubing preferably 1 1/8 inch diameter and not only build one for 80, 60, 40 but also another one for the 20, 17, 15, etc. My longest contact using such an antenna has been Siberia Russia and Japan from the Ohio Valley so not bad and using 100 watts. Of course, there are safety concerns especially in close proximity to a mag loop so be careful and remember don't touch or have anything or anyone touching either the loop or the capacitor otherwise you can be severely shocked due to extreme voltages even at lower power levels. Capacitors end up getting pretty expensive although you can find occasionally on EBay and other sites some of the older style capacitors that are a bit cheaper than vacuum variable ones which can run 100 dollars to as much as you are willing to spend. Of course, the larger the conductor as well especially with copper being expensive will set you back a bit of money as well. But its well worth it when you can pretty much put up the Mag Loop anywhere within reason and make contacts from as much as 2000 to 8000 miles away. Nice article and its an interesting topic that I've been experimenting on now going on about 2 years or so. |
W3UEC | 2020-01-15 | |
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Re: The Old Man and the Magloop | ||
You said: " I can see the advantage of this construction for reducing the effect of hand capacitance, but for all the work of calibrating the dial isn't it easier to just tune for maximum receive noise? That should be very close to the point of low SWR." (1) Adding the "bandspread" also would make the search for the maximum receive noise more tedious. (2) When I bought my current car, the salesman convinced me that I really needed a sunroof. I had a thought (fantasy) of putting an antenna up through the sunroof (with the mast in the coffee holder). To do this with the magloop, it seemed useful to be able to tune it in advance, before sticking it up through the sunroof. Once weather gets better, I will know how it goes. :-} Who knows? Maybe another article. 73 de W3UEC Reply to a comment by : WB0OEW on 2020-01-15 Good article and information, thank you. I can see the advantage of this construction for reducing the effect of hand capacitance, but for all the work of calibrating the dial isn't it easier to just tune for maximum receive noise? That should be very close to the point of low SWR. |
WB0OEW | 2020-01-15 | |
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The Old Man and the Magloop | ||
Good article and information, thank you. I can see the advantage of this construction for reducing the effect of hand capacitance, but for all the work of calibrating the dial isn't it easier to just tune for maximum receive noise? That should be very close to the point of low SWR. |
K7ESA | 2020-01-11 | |
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The Old Man and the Magloop | ||
Thanks for posting such an excellent article and introducing me to HF-319 SignalLoop. The Vernier control know is a great idea also. 73 |
KJ6ZH | 2020-01-08 | |
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Re: The Old Man and the Magloop | ||
Nice job on the article. Have the same loop and also added the same Vernier (but with shorter standoffs) about a year ago. Was a huge improvement for tuning and highly recommend this mod. I use a second, shorter coax for the loop to get 15-10 meter coverage. Agree that this is a nice, highly portable antenna that easily fits into a laptop case with my mcHF clone, coax, cw key, power supply and LiON battery for traveling. Also added a VX-6R HT and everything constitutes a "Shack in a Pack" Reply to a comment by : W0WCA on 2020-01-07 Well done and well written. Well done on the addition of the "real" Verner dial and your standoff. I did not know that the Verner dials were still available and so I am glad to have read your piece. Good price on the loop antenna but would be needing something that can handle .1 kw. |
K7LZR | 2020-01-08 | |
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Re: The Old Man and the Magloop | ||
Stephen, thank you for showing such a simple way to add vernier tuning to these antennas, and for taking the time to create and share your detailed findings and charts. I am the creator of this antenna, and we have been researching different methods for this for awhile. At one point in 2018, we found some tuning capacitors with built-in 8:1 planetary reduction drives ahich fit into our tuning boxes. We installed (2) of these in prototypes for testing. The 8:1 drives did help somewhat with finer tuning, but did nothing for hand capacitance. Another issue was that the shafts of said capacitors would happily spin a full 360 degrees of rotation and keep spinning so there was really no way to achieve any degree of reset-ability such as you have done here. I might offer something similar at a good price as an optional add on if I can find a good wholesale source for vernier dials. Thank you again, and I'm so happy to hear that the HF-319 is working for you :). Reply to a comment by : W0WCA on 2020-01-07 Well done and well written. Well done on the addition of the "real" Verner dial and your standoff. I did not know that the Verner dials were still available and so I am glad to have read your piece. Good price on the loop antenna but would be needing something that can handle .1 kw. |
W0WCA | 2020-01-07 | |
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The Old Man and the Magloop | ||
Well done and well written. Well done on the addition of the "real" Verner dial and your standoff. I did not know that the Verner dials were still available and so I am glad to have read your piece. Good price on the loop antenna but would be needing something that can handle .1 kw. |