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AA6CJ

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Internet options
« on: September 14, 2015, 09:13:59 AM »
Hi all,
Our family uses Verizon wireless, and at our remote site I have 4G available but no cable.  I will be running a K3 remotely.  Are any of you remoting well with a K3 using 4g, or have any of you tried Exede satellite?
73,
Fred, AA6CJ
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W8JX

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RE: Internet options
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2015, 10:04:50 AM »
I would give a thumbs down on a satellite. It would have too much inherent latency due to long signal paths.   
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AA6CJ

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RE: Internet options
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2015, 07:42:31 PM »
Anyone using Verizon wireless with K3 remote that might give me an idea of the monthly data usage?
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W8JX

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« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2015, 06:00:35 AM »
Quote from: AA6CJ on September 15, 2015, 07:42:31 PM
Anyone using Verizon wireless with K3 remote that might give me an idea of the monthly data usage?

That would depend on usage of radio. Given that data rate is slow and that you can limit baud rate of remote control (not audio encoding) It would take a lot of use to crack a gig of data.
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AA6CJ

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RE: Internet options
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2015, 05:19:20 PM »
Good news thanks.
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NR4C

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RE: Internet options
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2015, 11:55:18 AM »
take a look at Remotehams.com.  Seems easy to setup and offers decent control of radio for user and easy setup and control for host.  Can work well over 4G using Verizon cell phone for hotspot.  Also app for Android to operate remote radio.  Claimed 73 hours of radio with 1Gig of your data plan.  Highly compressed so it ain't Hi-Fi, but it works.

And, it's FREE!

...bc nr4c
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N6PJB

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RE: Internet options
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2015, 02:31:21 PM »
The satellite option is no good due to the high latency. ;D
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W9IQ

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« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2015, 07:01:21 AM »
I regularly use satellite services and do not have a problem with latency. It shouldn't be an issue unless you are operating break-in CW.

- Glenn W9IQ
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W8JX

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RE: Internet options
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2015, 03:02:08 PM »
Quote from: W9IQ on November 05, 2015, 07:01:21 AM
I regularly use satellite services and do not have a problem with latency. It shouldn't be an issue unless you are operating break-in CW.

- Glenn W9IQ

Latency is unavoidable with satellite due to path distance. On streaming with buffering it is satisfactory but you will always have several hundred ms latency vs as low a 30 ms or so with land based internet. Will web surfing and streaming is not timing critical, remote control of a rig could be.
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W9IQ

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RE: Internet options
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2015, 03:22:03 PM »
I really don't have any serious remote control issues with satellite. I have used it from around the world. Yes, you can notice a slight latency when fast tuning, but that's about the worst of it since I don't operate CW remotely.

When you live in the country, satellite service (aka country cable) is your cost effective choice. On the flip side, I can put up all the antennas I care to, of any size, run all the power I care to, and the "neighbors" never complain - but then again cattle and horses are generally not the complaining type.

- Glenn W9IQ
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AC7CW

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RE: Internet options
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2015, 06:42:13 AM »
Remote login Win7 to a computer on the same network and you have more latency than the internet has going halfway round the world.
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W8JX

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RE: Internet options
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2015, 10:39:09 AM »
Quote from: AC7CW on November 19, 2015, 06:42:13 AM
Remote login Win7 to a computer on the same network and you have more latency than the internet has going halfway round the world.

That is completely hardware dependent. On good hardware it fast and transparent.
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AA6CJ

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RE: Internet options
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2015, 03:06:16 PM »
Glen what satellite provider are you using?
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W9IQ

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RE: Internet options
« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2015, 04:11:34 PM »
Fred,

I use Exede and have been very happy with their satellite service and their customer service.

- Glenn W9IQ
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AA6CJ

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RE: Internet options
« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2015, 04:34:32 PM »
Hi Glenn,
Thanks for the response.  I'm happily surprised that your not experiencing much latency.  On another post, Bob Heil also suggested excede.  I talked with them earlier today and they are coming out with new plans in January.  I will keep them in mind.

73, Fred aa6cj
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