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W9OY

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RE: ICOM IC-7300
« Reply #75 on: April 06, 2016, 11:17:36 AM »

Interesting comment Andrea.  The IC-7300  is virtually all computer.  The "radio" exists in software (equations) being executed by the computers in the IC-732 like box.  I also have a IC-735, good radio.  You speak of remote base via a laptop and internet connection yet you recoil from the idea of a "computer" being a radio.  How is that not the same?  I'm not being critical in the least of your joy at your new toy but I wonder how long it will be before you no longer need the illusion of a radio.  I looked at your QRZ page and see all of those venerable boxes you have collected.  A lot of them are radios I once owned as well.  Now what I see are  boxes full of equations being executed by discrete analogue computational devices.  After all the behavior of a resistor is completely defined by current and voltage defined in an equation.  Just a different way to think about "radio".

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KD8TUT

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RE: ICOM IC-7300
« Reply #76 on: April 06, 2016, 12:44:07 PM »

I'm sure this radio is a fine step forward at it's price point. So I'm happy it's on the market.

The thing that bothers me, is how anyone can post a review of the radio with only a few days of use. It's inconceivable.

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RE: ICOM IC-7300
« Reply #77 on: April 06, 2016, 02:55:02 PM »

The 7300 will definitely make a dent in Flex radio sales.  The price point alone will attract many potential Flex buyers and the best thing of all with the 7300 is that NO external computer is necessary.  Wake up Flex, you need to do the same. Incorporate the computer into the radio.
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W9OY

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RE: ICOM IC-7300
« Reply #78 on: April 06, 2016, 07:43:45 PM »

Hamradio1

The computer IS already incorporated in a Flex signature series radio.  The Flex 6xxx radio is a server it does not rely on a "computer" to do anything in terms of signal processing.  To access the radio using a computer, a thin client is installed on the computer and is just one of many ways to access the radio that resides in the server.  I can access mine with my iPAD or a windows tablet and one guy built an Arduino to access his.  Another guy is building an android client, which should work on a cellphone or google nexus.  As a server, I have full access to my radio from anywhere on my network from any device (but only 1 device at a time).  The new Flex Maestro is another method of accessing the radio.  You don't need much of a computer either.  I've run mine from a $100 win 10 compute stick plugged into a HDMI port on a TV.
So I can run my entire radio station from anywhere.  I think Flex is way beyond your antique understanding of SDR, so maybe it's you who is asleep.  I have a friend who operates his Flex, amp, and MonsterIR, rotor which resides on a motorized crankup tower located in San Diego from something like 21 countries over a VPN connection.   I'm not knocking the 7300 in any way, I think it's a very exciting development in terms of advancement of the state of the art, at a very exciting price point, and I think it will introduce a lot of legacy radio hams to SDR, and that is a good thing.  I hope Icom sells a bunch of them.  It's about time ham radio lurches into the future.  I don't see the 7300 as much competition to Flex.  Like I said it's more of a legacy radio killer since the price v. performance in the 7300 is so much better compared to something like a K3.  The Flex has about a 20dBm greater RMDR compared to the 7300 and many many more features. 

https://community.flexradio.com/flexradio/topics/iw7dmh-flexcontroller

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5qc_Hc9vio

http://www.flexradio.com/amateur-products/flex-6000-signature-series/maestro/


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CS7AJS

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RE: ICOM IC-7300
« Reply #79 on: April 07, 2016, 01:49:22 AM »

2.5K USD and you need to build or rely on another piece of technology to use it?

I'm ok with kit builders and people trying to revive the good old days of Heathkit but this is just stupid!
Flex may have a great product but it is an incomplete one! You always need something else other than the box you buy and for the price it sells for, it should at least come with a small, 7", 100USD tablet that you can use to interface with the "radio".
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KD8TUT

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RE: ICOM IC-7300
« Reply #80 on: April 07, 2016, 02:00:42 AM »

Here we go....

Religious ham radio.
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W9OY

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RE: ICOM IC-7300
« Reply #81 on: April 07, 2016, 02:46:38 PM »

You don't want the Flex experience then get an IC-7300 or something else.  I almost bought a 7300 to play with but then realized I would never use it.  I'm far too addicted to the Flex/Anan feature set.  I bought a KX3, used it for 3 days and haven't turned it on since.  I keep it mostly because it might be useful in the case of a hurricane. 

I did see a youtube video showing the 7300 receiver crunching when connected to a beam so not sure what to make of that as the 7300 uses a LTC2208 16 bit ADC.  There looks to be enough control in the radio (attenuators and such) to allow you to tune out the overload.  My Flex's or Anan's never crunch.  Personally I'd rather have "never crunch" than a 7" built in screen.

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M1CTK

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RE: ICOM IC-7300
« Reply #82 on: April 08, 2016, 03:08:18 PM »

Took the IC-7300 for a spin this weekend as well, and wrote an article about it. Includes lots of info:

http://yo9irf.blogspot.com/2016/03/icom-ic-7300-review.html

I totally agree with 9V1YC, it's a pleasure to operate, the interface is very good and performance is excellent.

How does it cope with the dreaded power line interference on AM MW and 27 Mhz unless this is not a problem at your QTH ?

No way of simulating WFM for the OIRT FM band ?


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N2GYN

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RE: ICOM IC-7300
« Reply #83 on: April 09, 2016, 09:49:29 AM »

Their is a great group on facebook for the IC-7300.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/920301584731431/

Join and enjoy!
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NI8R

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RE: ICOM IC-7300
« Reply #84 on: April 09, 2016, 09:52:09 AM »

What's that smell?

 Oh it nothing, it just the smell of a new cult brewing

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M0GVZ

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RE: ICOM IC-7300
« Reply #85 on: April 13, 2016, 04:48:34 AM »



How does it cope with the dreaded power line interference on AM MW and 27 Mhz unless this is not a problem at your QTH ?

No way of simulating WFM for the OIRT FM band ?


Why would you be interested in using it on 27MHz? Thats the CB band, Same with OIRT? You don't need WFM unless you intend to transmit where you're not legally allowed to.
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M1CTK

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RE: ICOM IC-7300
« Reply #86 on: April 13, 2016, 01:49:22 PM »



How does it cope with the dreaded power line interference on AM MW and 27 Mhz unless this is not a problem at your QTH ?

No way of simulating WFM for the OIRT FM band ?


Why would you be interested in using it on 27MHz? Thats the CB band, Same with OIRT? You don't need WFM unless you intend to transmit where you're not legally allowed to.

If the noise reduction is good enough it would help a lot for 27 Mhz with the very bad PLT noise I get here on this band...obviously winding down the power to legal levels of course !

As for OIRT reception (only) why not...reception is very common during the summer Es season here...
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RE: ICOM IC-7300
« Reply #87 on: April 15, 2016, 11:42:45 AM »

The 7300 will definitely make a dent in Flex radio sales.  The price point alone will attract many potential Flex buyers and the best thing of all with the 7300 is that NO external computer is necessary.  Wake up Flex, you need to do the same. Incorporate the computer into the radio.

Nope you are dead wrong - sorry to inform you. Flex needs to remain top tier and computer dependent. Sorry you are incompatible with computers.
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HAMRADIO1

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RE: ICOM IC-7300
« Reply #88 on: April 15, 2016, 12:20:22 PM »

The 7300 will definitely make a dent in Flex radio sales.  The price point alone will attract many potential Flex buyers and the best thing of all with the 7300 is that NO external computer is necessary.  Wake up Flex, you need to do the same. Incorporate the computer into the radio.

Nope you are dead wrong - sorry to inform you. Flex needs to remain top tier and computer dependent. Sorry you are incompatible with computers.

Nope sorry you are wrong. The wave of the new SDR radios is NO computer.  Icom just started it with their entry level 7300.  I am sure down the road they will introduce this technology in more upscale radios.  I am very compatible with computers, I work in the IT industry.  Flex is already starting to move in that direction with the Maestro.  Dump the computer Flex that is the only way to go.
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RE: ICOM IC-7300
« Reply #89 on: April 15, 2016, 05:25:16 PM »

Yep. Writing's on the wall.
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